How to properly multiplex raw mpeg-4 asp into an .avi container?

[Selur]

ffmpeg, doesn't to the job properly:

ffmpeg -y  -i "small.m4v" -vtag xvid -vcodec copy -f avi "test.avi"

[quote]Input #0, m4v, from 'small.m4v':
Duration: N/A, bitrate: N/A
Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (Advanced Simple Profile), yuv420p, 640x352 [SAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 1200k tbn, 25 tbc //source is detected properly
Output #0, avi, to 'test.avi':
Metadata:
ISFT : Lavf54.3.100
Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (xvid / 0x64697678), yuv420p, 640x352 [SAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], q=2-31, 25 fps, 50 tbn, 50tbc //source is flagged wrong
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
frame= 429 fps=0.0 q=-1.0 Lsize= 1539kB time=00:00:17.14 bitrate= 735.4kbits/s
video:1513kB audio:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 1.716616%[/code] (flagging the output as 50fps is just wrong for 25fps progressive input.
using:

ffmpeg -y -i "small.m4v" -vtag xvid -vcodec copy -map 0:0 -f avi "small.avi"

or

ffmpeg -y -i "small.m4v" -vtag xvid -vcodec copy -map 0:0 -fps 25 -f avi "small.avi"

doesn't change a thing,.. :/
(yes, I wrote a bug report about it to the ffmpeg folks a while back: http://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/ticket/978)

mencoder:

mencoder -ovc copy -o "small.avi" "small.m4v"

creates an ouput file that only works with MPlayer and ffplay based media players. :/

Does any one know an alternative way to multiplex a raw MPEG-4 ASP videostream into an .avi file container?
(avidemux and avi-mux gui don't support raw MPEG-4 ASP input)

Cu Selur

Ps.: Ideally I would prefer a tool that's available on windows, mac and linux.

[hech54]

Would this help?
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/343895-Pass-Thru-presets-for-WinFF?highlight=WinFF

[Selur]

since it's a GUI for ffmpeg I doubt it, but I'll try,.. -> nope as suspected it's a simple gui for ffmpeg and when I create a passthrough profile the output is the same as when using ffmpeg directly.

[bat999]

Hi selur
I agree, FFmpeg gives a result that shows "50 tbn".

But VLC and MEncoder seem to give the correct results.

ffmpeg -i small.m4v -c copy test1.avi

cvlc small.m4v --sout="#std{access=file,mux=avi,dst='test2.avi'}" vlc://quit

cvlc small.m4v --sout="#std{access=file,mux=avcodec,dst='test3.avi'}" vlc://quit

mencoder -of lavf -ovc copy small.m4v -o test4.avi

ffprobe test1.avi
Input #0, avi, from 'test1.avi':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf54.3.100
  Duration: 00:00:17.14, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 735 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (Advanced Simple Profile) (FMP4 / 0x34504D46), yuv420p, 640x352 [SAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 25 tbr, 50 tbn, 25 tbc

ffprobe test2.avi
Input #0, avi, from 'test2.avi':
  Duration: 00:00:17.04, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 729 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (Advanced Simple Profile) (XVID / 0x44495658), yuv420p, 640x352 [SAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc

ffprobe test3.avi
Input #0, avi, from 'test3.avi':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf54.3.100
  Duration: 00:00:17.12, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 730 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (Advanced Simple Profile) (FMP4 / 0x34504D46), yuv420p, 640x352 [SAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc

ffprobe test4.avi
Input #0, avi, from 'test4.avi':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf54.3.100
  Duration: 00:00:17.12, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 731 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (FMP4 / 0x34504D46), yuv420p, 6144x2 [SAR 1:1 DAR 3072:1], 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc

"creates an ouput file that only works with MPlayer and ffplay based media players"
I've tested the four results with VLC and SMPlayer.
Maybe they will be OK with other players too.


EDIT
Also able to force xvid tag with MEncoder

mencoder -of lavf -ffourcc xvid -ovc copy small.m4v -o test5.avi

ffprobe test5.avi
Input #0, avi, from 'test5.avi':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf54.3.100
  Duration: 00:00:17.12, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 731 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg4 (xvid / 0x64697678), yuv420p, 6144x2 [SAR 1:1 DAR 3072:1], 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc

[Selur]

Maybe they will be OK with other players too.

SMPlayer is just a GUI for MPlayer, so no wonder it works,..

ffmpeg file -> wrong fps
mencoder file -> causes problem in a bunch of players (seems like all that are not libav based; vlc, ffmpeg and mplayer are + causes problems in Virtual Dub and some other editing tools)

file created with vlc seems the work fine. (it's a bit large with ~90MB just for muxing, but that's fine for my current use)
-> will use vlc then

Thanks!

Cu Selur

[bat999]

-> will use vlc then

Yes, I think that VLC with its own muxer is a good choice in this case.

cvlc small.m4v --sout="#std{access=file,mux=avi,dst='test2.avi'}" vlc://quit

General
Complete name           : test2.avi
Format                  : AVI
Format/Info             : Audio Video Interleave
File size               : 1.48 MiB
Duration                : 17s 40ms
Overall bit rate        : 730 Kbps

Video
ID                      : 0
Format                  : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile          : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP   : 2
Format settings, QPel   : No
Format settings, GMC    : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID                : XVID
Codec ID/Hint           : XviD
Duration                : 17s 40ms
Source duration         : 17s 0ms
Bit rate                : 722 Kbps
Width                   : 640 pixels
Height                  : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio    : 16:9
Frame rate              : 25.000 fps
Color space             : YUV
Chroma subsampling      : 4:2:0
Bit depth               : 8 bits
Scan type               : Progressive
Compression mode        : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)      : 0.128
Stream size             : 1.46 MiB (99%)
Writing library         : XviD 1.1.2 (UTC 2006-11-01)