Is txt2sup still supported?

[nbi]

txt2sup

Is this still supported? The Txt2Sup4210.exe from the direct link fails to run.

[usually_quiet]

Removed.

[johns0]

I use easySUP which makes better sups than the other programs i tried.

[Baldrick]

txt2sup

Is this still supported? The Txt2Sup4210.exe from the direct link fails to run.

It should work now.

[nbi]

txt2sup

Is this still supported? The Txt2Sup4210.exe from the direct link fails to run.

It should work now.

The program starts, but is not installed. I'd like to have it installed as well so I don't need to use your link every time.

[Baldrick]

It has no installation. Just put the .exe on your desktop.

[manono]

I use easySUP which makes better sups than the other programs i tried.

I've been curious about that program. Does it work to create Blu-Ray SUP files only, or does it make DVD SUPs also? I believe the OP is asking about DVD SUP files.

The best DVD subtitles I've seen come out of MaestroSBT which makes SST files for use in Muxman or Scenarist.

[nbi]

It has no installation. Just put the .exe on your desktop.

Yup, I eventually figured that out.

That's the good news. Here's the bad:

I was trying to create a bluray mp4 using a common technique that involves makemkv+mkvextract+bdsup2sub+handbrake. I was in a hurry and not thinking clearly on this particular project so I didn't retain the original mkv nor the sup extracts of the subtitles (I have not repeated this goof on other subtitle burn-in projects).

So I figured that since I have a mp4 (although faulty due to lack of burned in subtitles) and that I could download SRT subtitles there ought to be a path to a mp4 with burned in subtitles. I had heard about SRT to sup conversion tools but had not used any myself.

That's when my research led me to this thread. I was ecstatic to learn that there were tools available for precisely what I needed. And now for the cold shower. It seems that none of the "SRT to sup" conversion tools produce sups that bdsup2sub doesn't choke on. All sorts of errors ranging from "unexpected command found at...." to "index out of bounds at...." when attempting to load the sups.

Am I just having bad luck with buggy software and/or incompatibilities or am I missing an essential step? Or am I completely barking up the wrong tree and should just "forget about it"?

Although I learned my lesson about the correct process it would still be nice to have a working tool chain that can yield burned in subtitles starting from SRTs.

[manono]

Am I just having bad luck with buggy software and/or incompatibilities or am I missing an essential step? Or am I completely barking up the wrong tree and should just "forget about it"?

You're the buggy one. You've posted in a 6 year old thread which was originally about DVD SUP creation. And you want to create Blu-Ray SUP files (as we're only now finding out). Try johns0's suggestion.

And if you really want burned in subtitles (why?), there are lots of ways to do that, including using the SRTs you have. Don't you want your subs to be selectable?

[fritzi93]

I wondered about that too. If one has a device that won't recognize selectable or forced subs (like my new TV won't from USB drive), then one might want to hardcode any *forced* subs that are in the original Blu-Ray. But in that case, it's not necessary to convert them to SUP format, it would be other way round. You'd extract the forced SUP (PGS) files with BDSup2Sub and let, say, RipBot hardcode them into the video of an MP4 or MKV.

Anyway, yeah, easySUP is a good suggestion.

[nbi]

Am I just having bad luck with buggy software and/or incompatibilities or am I missing an essential step? Or am I completely barking up the wrong tree and should just "forget about it"?

You're the buggy one. You've posted in a 6 year old thread which was originally about DVD SUP creation. And you want to create Blu-Ray SUP files (as we're only now finding out). Try johns0's suggestion.

And if you really want burned in subtitles (why?), there are lots of ways to do that, including using the SRTs you have. Don't you want your subs to be selectable?

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Who cares if the thread is 6 years old? You think that those interested in DVD subtitles wouldn't be interested in the same transform applied to bluray?

What do you mean "as we're only now finding out"? Are you dyslexic? Do you see the leading "bd" in "bdsup2sub"? If you don't want to contribute feel free to keep your pie hole shut.

As for easySUP it is superior in that it doesn't crash. That's great if one doesn't mind the not so trivial detail of it not producing any output. Not even a frickin log file. But it plays chimes nicely for a few seconds.

Hmm. Why would anyone want burned in subtitles? Do I really need to tell you to google for answer?? Would you believe not all HW/SW setups render SRT? And if I'm watching a movie not in one of my native languages why wouldn't I want burned in subtitles? "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" is a perfect example. I watch it because it's a great movie not because I want to learn Swedish by switching the subtitles off.

[usually_quiet]

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Who cares if the thread is 6 years old? You think that those interested in DVD subtitles wouldn't be interested in the same transform applied to bluray?

What do you mean "as we're only now finding out"? Are you dyslexic? Do you see the leading "bd" in "bdsup2sub"? If you don't want to contribute feel free to keep your pie hole shut.

As for easySUP it is superior in that it doesn't crash. That's great if one doesn't mind the not so trivial detail of it not producing any output. Not even a frickin log file. But it plays chimes nicely for a few seconds.

Hmm. Why would anyone want burned in subtitles? Do I really need to tell you to google for answer?? Would you believe not all HW/SW setups render SRT? And if I'm watching a movie not in one of my native languages why wouldn't I want burned in subtitles? "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" is a perfect example. I watch it because it's a great movie not because I want to learn Swedish by switching the subtitles off.

This thread was originally about DVD subtitles, since it began in March 2006, 3 months before the first Blu-Ray discs and players were released. Creating Blu-ray subtitles requires using different tools than those originally discussed in 2006. You would have gotten better replies had you paid attention to forum rules and started a new thread, instead of hijacking this one, or revealed what you were looking for in your first post, not your third one.

[nbi]

I wondered about that too. If one has a device that won't recognize selectable or forced subs (like my new TV won't from USB drive), then one might want to hardcode any *forced* subs that are in the original Blu-Ray. But in that case, it's not necessary to convert them to SUP format, it would be other way round. You'd extract the forced SUP (PGS) files with BDSup2Sub and let, say, RipBot hardcode them into the video of an MP4 or MKV.

Anyway, yeah, easySUP is a good suggestion.

Does anyone read posts in their entirety before commenting?

Yeah it is necessary to convert to SUP *IF* you don't have the original SUP extracts or the original makemkv output from which to extract them. Just like I said in my post. BTW, "bdsup2sub" converts, it does not extract. The sup extraction is performed by something like "mkvextract".

I'm sure someone has worked out a streamlined automated procedure for going from SRT to burned-in. As most uploaded SRTs are of good quality I have no need to modify the subtitle appearance, I just want it burned-in with the minimum of muss & fuss.

[manono]

What do you mean "as we're only now finding out"? Are you dyslexic? Do you see the leading "bd" in "bdsup2sub"?

Your insults are cute, if juvenile. Your first post makes no mention at all of BDSup2Sub, and it seems to be a continuation of the 6 year old post about the creation of DVD SUP files. Only with your second post do we find out you're really interested in BD SUP files and that you posted in the wrong thread. If you couldn't find one having to do with BD SUP files, then you should have started a new one.

You think that those interested in DVD subtitles wouldn't be interested in the same transform applied to bluray?

No, I do not. Not in a thread originally started for DVD subtitles.

Hmm. Why would anyone want burned in subtitles? Do I really need to tell you to google for answer?? Would you believe not all HW/SW setups render SRT? And if I'm watching a movie not in one of my native languages why wouldn't I want burned in subtitles? "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" is a perfect example. I watch it because it's a great movie not because I want to learn Swedish by switching the subtitles off.

That paragraph makes no sense at all. If you really want burned in subs you don't use SUP files for it. You can use SRTs, SSAs, Vobsubs, all kinds of subs, but not SUP files. If you want selectable subs then you use SUP files and mux them in during the Blu-Ray authoring. Ordinarily one doesn't burn subs into a video if it can be avoided because they degrade the video and require a higher bitrate for the same quality.

Yeah it is necessary to convert to SUP *IF* you don't have the original SUP extracts

No it's not. Not when SRTs or SSAs or VobSubs or other subtitle formats can be used to hardcode into the movie. Handbrake itself (which you said you use) supports SRT subs, and doesn't even accept Blu-Ray SUPs as input.

[johns0]

Moved thread to its own post,next time please post in a new thread.

[fritzi93]

I haven't used it enough to be sure, but every version of MakeMKV I've tried somehow buggered the subtitles. Either they wouldn't display, wouldn't demux from the MKV afterwards, or wouldn't properly mux to a Blu-Ray structure if they did demux. I've tried MakeMKV from time to time, though I haven't recently.