Sony Vegas 11 problem with subclips

[Hulsie]

Hello everyone,

I imported a long, unbroken video into Vegas 11 Platinum Edition and need to make several subclips from it. The problem I am experiencing is that only the first subclip ends up having correct video and audio -- every subsequent subclip has the video clip I have selected but the attached audio is never correct -- it is reusing the same audio segment from subclip #1.

Here's what I am doing:

1. Breaking the video into sections in the timeline by pressing the "S" key over the desired portion,
2. Selecting the clip and dragging it up into my media bin.
3. It appears to correct add it to my bin, but when I drag it down into the timeline to insert elsewhere, that's when it provides me with the incorrect audio (unless I am using the first subclip I created, which always works)

Am I doing something wrong or is there feature I accidentally have checked/unchecked? I couldn't find anything in the user manual, in the preferences boxes, or even on the Web.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know!!

Thanks

[JimmyS]

Try right-clicking on your cut section in the timeline and select Create Subclip. Or, drop your video into the trimmer window. Set in and out point. Click on Create Subclip icon. If the trimmer window is not showing by default, select View-Trimmer in the main menu. It should show up in the dock area.

[Hulsie]

Hello and thanks for the reply.

I should have been more specific. Right-clicking and selecting "create subclip" was how I made them, not dragging them into my media bin as I stated. I just tried using the trimmer and it doesn't work there either.

[zoobie]

What's your source and is it already highly compressed?

[Hulsie]

Hi zoobie,

It's a one-hour Mini-DV tape captured to a single super-huge AVI file with no compression at all.

I imported the media as one long video with no divisions and put it in the timeline, and that's where I intend to create the subclips from. This is my first time working with version 11, but I'm pretty sure this worked in whatever previous version I was using.

Thanks,
Matt

[_Al_]

Try to do it through trimmer, send clip to trimmer, select loop region, create subclip .... maybe if you are lucky it will work because you never cut a clip in the first place thus creating some out of sync problems .... try it

[Hulsie]

Same result when done through the trimmer.

Does anybody know any free alternative editing software I can use for now? I have a deadline and don't wish to dick around with Sony's inferior product too much longer. I've been struggling with this for days now. Maybe I'll just use MSWMM to cut the clips and then import them into Vegas or something.

Thanks for the help, though.

[_Al_]

Use Virtual Dub, load clip, for video and audio set "Direct Stream Copy" , set first and last frame , press Ctrl+Shift+F7, save as ..., do it as many times you want, then pres F4 for job control and start your batch list over there ....

[Hulsie]

Thanks, Al. I will do this.

I finally found somebody else who referenced this problem:

There is a function CREATE SUBCLIP that moves a named copy of a selected event on the timeline back to to a bin. Unfortunately, it always reverts back to the original sync sound. It doesn't seem to work with UNGROUP/GROUP.

I've tried this procedure:
1. U (ungroup) the original sync audio from the video event
2. Match the external audio on the video event
3. G (group) the video event and the external audio event
4. select newly grouped event and select CREATE SUBCLIP

I also tried to copy/paste the newly grouped event (video + external sound) from one Vegas instance to another instance. But the same problem.

Now, once you have aligned the audio on the a timeline, you can always copy/paste from this "alignment" project onto you real editing project. Vegas allows to have multiple projects open and you can copy/paste between them. The "alignment" project then becomes a kind of "bin" to search/select events. The editing itself is done in another project.

Maybe I am missing something, but why would this be intentional? Why create a subclip if it doesn't sync the audio? Something tells me this is meant to be a "feature" of some sort that I just don't understand.

[_Al_]

I do not think it is some feature, something simply doesn't work here.

[Hulsie]

I do not think it is some feature, something simply doesn't work here.

I think you're right.

Thanks for your help. VirtualDub is doing a good job.

[budwzr]

Hmmm...it works fine in my copy of Vegas Pro 11.

The blue clips are subclips from above tracks. Note the waveforms are different, and matching the clips above. So it's not a Vegas problem.

[_Al_]

I use this a lot. I have lots of DV avi sitting somewhere over LAN, on NAS etc. Vegas creates those stl or how are they called , small files. It creates rubbish overthere or NAS doesn't like it . So why not to copy those files through VD this way to local hardisk or copy desired parts at the same time, not necessarily the whole DV avi.

[_Al_]

.... So it's not a Vegas problem.

yes, I think he even stated that, it used to worked for him, but not now somehow.

[budwzr]

.... So it's not a Vegas problem.

yes, I think he even stated that, it used to worked for him, but not now somehow.

Yeah, probably so. Even if it is a new feature, who would want that feature? I can't imagine.