Recommend a <$100 capture card for analog to lossless AVI codec

[Cheesyii]

I'm looking for a card that I can capture analog video and audio (from VHS, SVHS, Hi8, etc) to a compressed but lossless codec like huffyuv or others. Must be compatible with windows 7 and a semi modern PC. I'm going to be doing alot of editing prior to the finished product so I'd prefer to use a card that does not require capturing in a lossy format.

The card doesn't need to come with the software to do this, I can purchase that seperately. It's just unclear on what modern cards can do this now as most of them seem to want to do hardware mpeg2 compression during the capture.

Any ideas? Thanks!!

- Colby

[jagabo]

ATI 600 maybe?

http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Wonder-600-PCIE-Tuner/dp/B00138GQBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1...4578840&sr=8-3

The ATI 650 and 750 devices have automatic gain problems (the picture gets brighter and darker, and more and less saturated, periodically).

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/326560-Which-is-better-usb-stick-vhs-cap-or-hd-pvr-...=1#post2023227

A few users have stated that isn't a problem on the ATI 550 and 600 devices. I did eventually find a partial solution for the 650 -- use a macrovision stripper. That fixed the problem for many sources. The problem appears to be related to false macrovision detection.

But it's more important that you have a good SVHS deck with a line TBC. And if your tapes are in bad condition a full frame TBC.

[usually_quiet]

There is a fair chance you won't have access to the ATI TV Wonder 600 PCI-e's proc amp controls under windows 7. The internal Theater 600 TV cards, internal Theater 650 TV cards, and the Theater 750 TV cards all use the same Windows 7 driver package, and I know from personal experience that the proc amp controls for the PCI and PCI-e Theater 650 TV Wonder cards are non-functional when installed in a Windows 7 computer.

At the moment there are probably more PC TV tuners that rely strictly on software MPEG-2 encoding for their analog AV connection than there are PC TV tuners that have a hardware MPEG-2 encoder chip. The small USB-stick-like TV tuners that include analog video capture all use software to encode. Here are a couple of internal TV cards that only use software for encoding:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100034
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116024

Unfortunately, I can't tell you if any of them work well for capturing VHS or not. There are also USB devices that lack a tuner and are strictly for analog capture which rely on software for encoding.

[edDV]

Many of the old Conexant BT8xx PCI cards still work for an XP or Linux dual boot. Still have open source drivers.

http://btwincap.sourceforge.net/
http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=10

[themaster1]

Mine work on 7 x64 if you can find one (discontinued) terratec 250 pci, the only thing is the radio tuner don't work on 7 for some reason.
The chipset inside is a philips SAA 7xxx more recent than BT8xx chipsets

[mammo1789]

Mine work on 7 x64 if you can find one (discontinued) terratec 250 pci, the only thing is the radio tuner don't work on 7 for some reason.
The chipset inside is a philips SAA 7xxx more recent than BT8xx chipsets

Do the proc amp controls work for you themaster1?Mine works also pinnacle 110i ( philips 7131e chip even newer than the 7134 one ) even radio but as sad by usually_quiet the proc amp controls are not working in any program including vdub they are just grey out according to jagabo its windows 7 ( i have 64 bit) problem not the cards. That's why I use dual boot ( which is pain in the ass)

[themaster1]

Last time i checked yes.

One feature that'd be nice is 10-12 bits depth, mine is only 9 bits like most of the cards. I had a 10 bits pixel view card at some point in time it did fantastic caps but was very instable, bad drivers implementation perhaps

[edDV]

Most of the mid level up AJA Kona/Xena and Blackmagic Decklink cards cap analog to 10 bits. They also have proc amp and some internal TBC. Be prepared for four figures new.

[mammo1789]

themaster1 i buy for charismas new tv card i wanted to be combo so i picked asus my cinema es3-11o including dvb-t, analog, and satellite ( to replace my old skystar-2 ) and guess what in windows 7 64 bit virtual dub there are internal proc amp sliders again and even the 720x576 default resolution( previously i had to go to custom resolution to set it up ) and the picture looks more clean than on pinnacle card ( strange these card has nxp chip 7131e the same as Philips on the pinnacle one but the picture is more clean definitely) . I still have to figure it up how to watch satellite in dvbviewer ( it catches signals and channels but when i try to watch them its says 28 % signal must be some software issue i will resolve it )

Its under 100$ and i think its great all round card