How to record HD TV?

[iRecycle]

Hey folks, sorry if it is a repeat post but i looked through and could not find any specific answers. I wanted to know..

1) how do i record HD TV? ( i have a HD TV set up box with no recorder facility in it).
2) I use a Sony KDL 32 Ex 420 LED TV.

I would be very glad if anyone could help me. They air some one hour programes worth storing for life. Don't want to miss out on those. Especially the National Geographic ones.

Thanks in advance.

[aedipuss]

dvr - pvr? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dvr&x=6&y=20

[edDV]

How are you getting your HDTV? Cable? Sat? Over the air?

Which provider? What model set top box?

Which channels do you want to record?

[iRecycle]

I have a HD set top box connected via a cable to the TV into the HDMI port 1.

I want to record a) Nat Geo HD b) History TV 18 HD 3) Discovery HD

I am attaching a few pictures which should help. Because I cannot give exact specifications.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/dsc00890g.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/dsc00893nx.jpg/

Any help would be appreciated thanks.

[edDV]

For an HD cable box with analog component out you can record with a Hauppauge HD PVR. Most all cable boxes won't allow HDMI and analog component out at the same time. You need to feed component from the HDPVR to the HDTV.

Many HD cable boxes have IEEE-1394 out carrying MPeg2TS of the currently tuned channel. Individual cable companies decide which channels are passed and which are blocked. You need to test.

[iRecycle]

Oh wow!! It all sounded greek and latin to me. Can you or anyone break it into simple and less complicated words please? or from what I understood..

I buy a Hauppauge HD PVR. Connect it to the TV and press record and it records? Is it right or i missed something?

[edDV]

Oh wow!! It all sounded greek and latin to me. Can you or anyone break it into simple and less complicated words please? or from what I understood..

I buy a Hauppauge HD PVR. Connect it to the TV and press record and it records? Is it right or i missed something?

The Hauppauge HD PVR connects USB to a Windows computer and records from a Windows application to h.264.
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

Elgato offers a similar box (Eyetv HD) for the Mac.
http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products.en.html

If this is too complicated, you are a candidate for the cable company DVR or you can buy the Blu-Ray. Many of the History/Nat Geo/Discovery programs end up on Netflix.

[edDV]

Oh wow!! It all sounded greek and latin to me. Can you or anyone break it into simple and less complicated words please? or from what I understood..

I buy a Hauppauge HD PVR. Connect it to the TV and press record and it records? Is it right or i missed something?

Just noticed you are in India. You should have similar models there but model numbers will differ.

[gll99]

Oh wow!! It all sounded greek and latin to me. Can you or anyone break it into simple and less complicated words please? or from what I understood..

I buy a Hauppauge HD PVR. Connect it to the TV and press record and it records? Is it right or i missed something?

Could be more Greek to you but....
The Hauppauge USB HD PVR or the Avermedia HD PVR need a computer to run the capture software and to store the recordings. The signal from your cable box is sent through component cables (red, green, blue) instead of hdmi to the HDPVR box which encodes the video and audio and then sends it to your computer via a usb cable. Google them and look specifically at the USB models since they are not computer pcie cards but are external boxes which connect to the computer via usb cable.

If you use the HD PVR you may not be able to use the hdmi on your cable box at the same time because it will likely stop the signal from being played through any analog outputs (ie svideo, composite (usually yellow) or component (red, green, blue). That is why the HDPVR also has a pass through feature so you can connect the HDPVR to your tv so you can see the video from your cable box on your tv.

[usually_quiet]

If you want permanent copies of HD programs, a HD capture device for the PC like the Hauppauge HD PVR or the AVerMedia HD DVR can do the job.

AverMedia will also sell the HD EzRecorder in some countries (coming soon they say), which captures to an internal or external hard drive without a PC. http://www.avermedia.com/avertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=563 I don't know if its recordings are completely portable or not. It is possible they are encrypted.

[Edit]The HD EzRecorder does not come with an HDD. Those are a separate purchase.

[jairovital]

Recently, I bought an AverMedia DarkCrystal HD Capture Pro.



I'm using Windows 8.1 in a Intel i7 processor, 8 Gb RAM.
I can capture using the Composite port, limited to DVD resolution.

Here, the problems and the questions:
I'm having some trouble to get the signal from the card. Sometimes it shows "No Signal" warning. I have to change to S-Video and HDMI sources and come back to Composition again, many times to achieve the right signal from TV.
But the big problem is to get the signal from HDMI source. I'm getting no signal, even when I'm sure to have attached the right cable at the right port in the card. I'm getting the audio signal, but no video signal at all.

I thought it would be some problem or bug in the AverMedia Center program, which came along. So, I searched for a similar program able to see the HDMI signal from the card. Some years ago, I used CrisTV PVR to capture video from a Pinnacle card I had, an old one, limited to DVD resolution. But CrisTV just see Composite and S-Video sources.

So, I ask you guys some comments about that problem described and how to solve it.

1. Why that problem to get the signal from Composite source is occurring?
2. Is there any other program that could capture the HDMI source? Compatible with my AverMedia card?
3. Is there any chance to be a hardware problem/failure with the card?

[usually_quiet]

Some set top boxes may not be able to deliver analog video and HDMI at the same time, or your provider may disable analog video for specific channels or certain types of programming.

HDMI output from a set top box is likely to be HDCP protected. Your capture device will not record video when it detects HDCP. Some possible solutions are discussed here.

[jairovital]

As I said on post #11, I'm experiencing some problems to get the video signal from an AverMedia Capture Card.
I was thinking that the problem could be related to hardware issue. But not.
Today, I went back to solve the problem and I installed it on an old computer, Core2Duo, running Windows XP SP3.

It works very well!

So, I guess the problem could be related to some settings I got on the new computer, an Intel i7, running Windows 8.1.

After install Windows 8.1 and the motherboard and video card drivers, I installed the AverMedia drivers. After that, it did not work. I can get the audio signal, but no video at all, using HDMI input, as I said on previous #11 post.

Any idea, suggestion?

[felixtime]

As I said on post #11, I'm experiencing some problems to get the video signal from an AverMedia Capture Card.
I was thinking that the problem could be related to hardware issue. But not.
Today, I went back to solve the problem and I installed it on an old computer, Core2Duo, running Windows XP SP3.

It works very well!

So, I guess the problem could be related to some settings I got on the new computer, an Intel i7, running Windows 8.1.

After install Windows 8.1 and the motherboard and video card drivers, I installed the AverMedia drivers. After that, it did not work. I can get the audio signal, but no video at all, using HDMI input, as I said on previous #11 post.

Any idea, suggestion?

You can also choose http://www.amazon.com/Dual-HDMI-Video-Capture-Card/dp/B00O2FEDV6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qi...words=magewell. It can support Windows 8.1 steadily.

[usually_quiet]

felixtime is a shill doing covert advertising in every video capture thread he can find. Hopefully this spammer will soon be banned.

[usually_quiet]

As I said on post #11, I'm experiencing some problems to get the video signal from an AverMedia Capture Card.
I was thinking that the problem could be related to hardware issue. But not.
Today, I went back to solve the problem and I installed it on an old computer, Core2Duo, running Windows XP SP3.

It works very well!

So, I guess the problem could be related to some settings I got on the new computer, an Intel i7, running Windows 8.1.

After install Windows 8.1 and the motherboard and video card drivers, I installed the AverMedia drivers. After that, it did not work. I can get the audio signal, but no video at all, using HDMI input, as I said on previous #11 post.

Any idea, suggestion?

The capture software you are using and/or the drivers may be incompatible with Windows 8.1. What capture software have you tried with Windows 8.1? Since your card software encodes, there may be other capture software that you can use to test the drivers.

[jairovital]

The capture software you are using and/or the drivers may be incompatible with Windows 8.1. What capture software have you tried with Windows 8.1? Since your card software encodes, there may be other capture software that you can use to test the drivers.

I sent a request to support department at Aver and they are analysing the problem. They suggested the latest drivers/software (beta) for Windows 8.1, but it didn't work yet.

What other software I would use? I have only AverMediaCenter here. Don't know any other.
What do you suggest?

[usually_quiet]

If you are sure that you are not attempting to record an HDCP protected HDMI signal, AmaRecTV is supposed to work with AVerMedia's C027 capture cards. AmaRecTV is limited to freeware codecs for recording, but if you can see a picture in the preview window (without recording), that will tell you that the Windows 8.1 drivers that you installed are not the problem.

[jairovital]

I installed AmaRecTV but it has no HDMI input (source), just Composite and S-Video. I'm trying to work with HDMI input video.
It detects AverMedia BDA Analogue Capture device, but only Composite and S-Video sources were available.
What am I missing?

[usually_quiet]

I installed AmaRecTV but it has no HDMI input (source), just Composite and S-Video. I'm trying to work with HDMI input video.
It detects AverMedia BDA Analogue Capture device, but only Composite and S-Video sources were available.
What am I missing?

Try S-Video. I think for this card, "S-Video" is not for an S-Video connection, but for HDMI . There is a post I found where another VideoHelp member posted his settings to use the AVerMedia C027 with AmaRecTV. See https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/363177-Need-help-setting-up-AverTV-HD-DVR-and-Amare...=1#post2309995 The picture may flicker, but if you get a picture at least you will know that the drivers work. If you get an "HDCP" message, you will know that is the problem. You could also try the version of AmarRecTV that Cauptain uses, version 3.00c, but something I read indicated it does not work correctly with Windows 8.1

[Edit]I found more set up information: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/335793-AverTV-HD-DVR-drivers?p=2121533&viewfull=1#post2121533

I forgot that Cauptain isn't recording at DVB resolutions and frame rates. You will need to use resolutions the correct resolution for 576i and 576p and frame rates appropriate to your video system, either 25fps or 50fps, depending on the source.