NTSC dvd to PAL dvd

[ashe09]

hi ,
how to make NTSC dvd to PAL dvd,
1) I know convertx but defiantly quality loss in there,
2)other i know is avstodvd,but (when i made dvd in that software than)that dvd not play on dvd player but play on pc,
so any other suggestion ?

[AlanHK]

Just about every PAL DVD player can play NTSC.
So why bother?

[hech54]

Agreed.....waste of time.

[ashe09]

Just about every PAL DVD player can play NTSC.
So why bother?

because 1) i have audio(Hindi) in PAL of that dvd but video in a poor quality
2) also video in high quality in NTSC dvd but audio in English,
so, i want to make a dvd that have high quality video plus hindi audio is that possible ?

[AlanHK]

Just about every PAL DVD player can play NTSC.
So why bother?

because 1) i have audio(Hindi) in PAL of that dvd but video in a poor quality
2) also video in high quality in NTSC dvd but audio in English,
so, i want to make a dvd that have high quality video plus hindi audio is that possible ?

I would suggest you use the NTSC video as-is and dub the Hindi on that.
it will be much simpler and you won't lose any video quality.

Whatever you do though you will probably have to spend some time syncing the audio.
There may even be different scenes in each version.


I'd demux both audio tracks, open in Audacity (1.3 with ffmpeg plugin).
Use the English track as reference, adjust the Hindi to match using non verbal sounds -- doors closing, etc -- to get sync points.
then export the adjusted Hindi to AC3 and author with the NTSC video, using eg GfD.

Note that you can have more than one audio track on a DVD, so you can have the English as an alternate if you want.

[ashe09]

Whatever you do though you will probably have to spend some time syncing the audio.
There may even be different scenes in each version.


yes after almost every 5 min audio is syncing

[ashe09]

I'd demux both audio tracks, open in Audacity (1.3 with ffmpeg plugin).
Use the English track as reference, adjust the Hindi to match using non verbal sounds -- doors closing, etc -- to get sync points.
then export the adjusted Hindi to AC3 and author with the NTSC video, using eg GfD

silly question butttttt
audacity is to complicated if any tutorial is there than i understand waht to do with audio

[AlanHK]

I'd demux both audio tracks, open in Audacity (1.3 with ffmpeg plugin).
Use the English track as reference, adjust the Hindi to match using non verbal sounds -- doors closing, etc -- to get sync points.
then export the adjusted Hindi to AC3 and author with the NTSC video, using eg GfD

silly question butttttt
audacity is to complicated if any tutorial is there than i understand waht to do with audio

http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Audacity_Wiki_Home_Page

[ashe09]

i not tired audacity but lots of information about besweet(for 25,000 fps to 29.970 fps)so i download that but here a new problem "Run commend line"plase help

[manono]

i not tired audacity but lots of information about besweet(for 25,000 fps to 29.970 fps)...

You'll want to convert it from 25fps to 23.976fps.

[AlanHK]

i not tired audacity but lots of information about besweet(for 25,000 fps to 29.970 fps)so i download that but here a new problem "Run commend line"plase help

Really, I think BeSweet won't help you.
It is very unlikely that simply changing the framerate will give you an exact matching audio track.
Then you'll have to adjust it, using an audio editor, so you might as well do the whole thing in Audacity.

I recalled that someone was trying to do exactly the same thing a year ago, and I explained at length how to do it. So just see https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/327065-Adding-audio-to-a-DVD?p=2025534&viewfull=1#post2025534

If you can't understand it, I'm sorry, but that's the best I can do.
There is no one-click way.
You have to read up on the tools if you want to do this.

[ashe09]

i not tired audacity but lots of information about besweet(for 25,000 fps to 29.970 fps)...

You'll want to convert it from 25fps to 23.976fps.

okk, i will try definitely that....

[ashe09]

to AlanHK

my video file & audio file almost matching,but the difference is fps so i tried other thing then audacity,
and anyway i not want one click solution because i have tons of ntsc dvd & pal audio to make a dvd just for my personal hugh collection,thanks for you help man..

[ashe09]

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this images show my video & audio file details
but audio is short 10 min for video ?

[manono]

The attachments don't show up (for me), but if it's a standard more-than-2.5-hour-long Hindi language film, then it sounds like you just need a normal PAL to NTSC audio conversion. This assumes both versions of the film have exactly the same number of frames (no extra scenes in one or the other).

[ashe09]

Hi manono,
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !
(but again) this thread i was started for my basic question (that's answer already give by AlanHK but that my problem is still not solve) how to convert audio from 25fps to 23.976fps ???????????????????????

[manono]

...this thread i was started for my basic question (that's answer already give by AlanHK but that my problem is still not solve) how to convert audio from 25fps to 23.976fps ???????????????????????

I've used BeSweet for the job probably 500 times. It even has a PAL->NTSC(25.000 to 23.976) preset. I first convert to WAV, try and improve it some in Audacity (I work with old Hindi films), before then converting back to AC3. If you have Soft Encode or some other commercial AC3 encoder, use that. Otherwise Aften and one of its GUIs is good (or eac3to), and I don't use Be Sweet for AC3 encoding. Up to you, though.

[ashe09]

thanks manono,
i got your point,late night almost 2 to 3 hours of works,i solve this 25 fps to 23.976 fps problem(i was looking for 3 to 4 months for that)

first i use BeSweet,but result was not good that i was wanted,
some help of delaycut,FormatFactory,Power Ac3 converter,MkVMergeGUI,Aimersoft Video Conerter & i got result,so how that i got result ,tomorrow i give details of that with pic thats better to understand ,okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[ashe09]

How i Adjust PAL audio in NTSC Video

A) DVD Movie (Run Time - 2H 18M 45S With Director cut)
8 Gb
NTSC
29.976 fps
Audio in English
B) VCD of Same Movie (Run Time 2H 04M 54S Theatrical cut)
3 Disc
PAL
25 fps
Audio in Hindi

1) Aimersoft Video Converter – I convert 3 VCD in one MKV file with 29.976 fps
2) Format Factory – that MKV file audio convert in Mp3
3) Power Ac3 Converter – that Mp3 audio convert in Ac3 for use of Delaycut
4) Delaycut – that Ac3 audio i adjust that how i want (like 5 cuts some time +562 ms or some time -1050ms)
5) MKVmergeGUI – 8 Gb DVD Vob convert in MKVth help of MKVmergeGUI,
then in that MKV file add my Ac3 (Hindi) audio & adjust video in 25 fps
and Now my movie will play with English & Hindi audio.

But I can’t understand that my audio Ac3 Hindi is 29.976 fps & when i make
MKV with help of MKVmergeGUI video 25 fps is match?
But end of the day I got what i wanted!



(I was posted in forum yesterday i post pic of what really i do but some how I can’t do that ,sorry)