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    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
    So HF G10 wont be available in UAE ? or will it only support 50i/25p ?
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post
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    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
    So HF G10 wont be available in UAE ? or will it only support 50i/25p ?
    This is the Euro 50i/25p ("PAL") model. The USA model shoots 60i/30p/24p.

    HFG10E
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
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    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
    So HF G10 wont be available in UAE ? or will it only support 50i/25p ?
    This is the Euro 50i/25p ("PAL") model. The USA model shoots 60i/30p/24p.

    HFG10E
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
    So it is known as Legria HF G10 and not Vixia.

    Ill keep this in mind when shopping for it here in UAE.

    Thanks once again, this really helps.
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post
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    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
    So HF G10 wont be available in UAE ? or will it only support 50i/25p ?
    This is the Euro 50i/25p ("PAL") model. The USA model shoots 60i/30p/24p.

    HFG10E
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
    So it is known as Legria HF G10 and not Vixia.

    Ill keep this in mind when shopping for it here in UAE.

    Thanks once again, this really helps.
    HFG10E
    The "E" stands for the European (or PAL) model.
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    The HF-G10 will do fine for that type of work. In the UAE you will probably be getting the 50i/25p version.

    Your laptop should do fine.
    So HF G10 wont be available in UAE ? or will it only support 50i/25p ?
    This is the Euro 50i/25p ("PAL") model. The USA model shoots 60i/30p/24p.

    HFG10E
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
    So it is known as Legria HF G10 and not Vixia.

    Ill keep this in mind when shopping for it here in UAE.

    Thanks once again, this really helps.
    HFG10E
    The "E" stands for the European (or PAL) model.
    I dont think that NTSC models would be sold here since PAL is used here.
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    Can video made in Canon HF G10 be used in Broadcast / Television ?
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    Can video made in Canon HF G10 be used in Broadcast / Television ?
    Yes, it is AVCHD format. Also has an uncompressed HDMI direct output. This can be captured for live broadcast.
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    Can video made in Canon HF G10 be used in Broadcast / Television ?
    Yes, it is AVCHD format.
    My teacher was thinking of offering his recordings to the local TV station, that is why i asked the above question.


    This is really a sweet camera. Now i have to find out the pricing of it in UAE. I think it might be under 5000 Dhs.
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    One more thing, i was checking the cam here:

    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HF-G10-Camcorder-Review/Product-Tour.htm

    I did not notice an External Mic Input... Did i miss it or it is not in it ?
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post
    One more thing, i was checking the cam here:

    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HF-G10-Camcorder-Review/Product-Tour.htm

    I did not notice an External Mic Input... Did i miss it or it is not in it ?
    The specs here show an external mic and headphone connector.
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
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    One more thing, i was checking the cam here:

    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HF-G10-Camcorder-Review/Product-Tour.htm

    I did not notice an External Mic Input... Did i miss it or it is not in it ?
    The specs here show an external mic and headphone connector.
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761898-REG/Canon_HFG10E_Legria_HF_G10_Flash.html
    Excellent thanks.

    I will show this model to the teacher tomorrow and see what he thinks of it.
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    I don't see where the connectors are. To find out, download the manual at the Canon site.
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    I don't see where the connectors are. To find out, download the manual at the Canon site.
    What an awkward place for the Mic and its uncovered

    Here it is:

    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HF-G10-Camcorder-Review/Playback-amp-...nnectivity.htm

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    Meh, you can't go wrong with Canon. I have two and I love them both.
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    Just found out the price from a major electronics store outlet here

    Canon Legria HF G10 = 1,497.06 USD

    Its a bit expensive when compared to the price found on Amazon.
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    Need some advice on purchasing a good Tripod/Stand for the Canon HF G10

    I need something very stable.
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post
    Need some advice on purchasing a good Tripod/Stand for the Canon HF G10

    I need something very stable.
    Manfrotto. Even the cheapest one (Mine) is rock solid.

    I used to laugh at those "idiots" for paying extra for a brand name and status, until I tried one.
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    Originally Posted by budwzr View Post
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    Need some advice on purchasing a good Tripod/Stand for the Canon HF G10

    I need something very stable.
    Manfrotto. Even the cheapest one (Mine) is rock solid.

    I used to laugh at those "idiots" for paying extra for a brand name and status, until I tried one.
    I also have a Manfrotto for my DSLR, you can really tell the difference between a good vs the walmart tripods.


    Any specific model from Manfrotto for Camcorder
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    http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-055XPROB-Tripod-Legs-Black/dp/B000UMX7FI/ref=sr_1_1?ie...8623040&sr=8-1

    I got this one, but with a ball head, $149 Frys. There's a $25 rebate but it's a Visa prepaid.
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    Guys, i informed about the price of Canon HF G10, the teacher said that its expensive.

    Are there any other cams below the price range of $1,100 ?
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    Plenty below that price. Go to Amazon and sort by user review or popularity.

    I shot this with a $100 Flip through a car window. http://youtu.be/_GxFL27PU2I?hd=1

    The gunfight part is from an older SD camera, a little fuzzy.

    The good thing about HD is a lot of detail, the bad thing sometimes too is a lot of detail, especially head shots. You're gonna see nose hairs, wrinkles, etc.

    Also, a talking head video is the most boring of all to everyone except the speaker, so you might want to get two cheapee cams and do multicam to break it up a little, especially good is audience reaction and medium shots of the scene.

    The saying "It's not the gear, it's the technique" is very true. And there's another one that "The camera "likes" you or it doesn't". That's a kinder way to say whether you are palatable to viewers. Hahaha. So if your speaker is not palatable, hahaha, you have to back off and take a longer shot.
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    Next best is the Panasonic HDC-TM900 (~$899).
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/760479-REG/Panasonic_HDCTM900E_HDC_TM900_High_De...ition_PAL.html

    budwzr, he needs the audio features of the G-10 or TM900.
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    Next best is the Panasonic HDC-TM900 (~$899).
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/760479-REG/Panasonic_HDCTM900E_HDC_TM900_High_De...ition_PAL.html

    budwzr, he needs the audio features of the G-10 or TM900.
    Thanks Ed, ill try to find its equivalent in UAE.

    Ill have to check the stores for its price.

    I checked some reviews of Panasonic HDC-TM900, there seems to be an issue with Fan Noise. Bu ti guess it wont be an issue since i would be using Zoom H2n for recording the audio seperately and not using the Cam's audio.

    But would the fan noise interfere with the Zoom h2n's recording since both the cam and the zoom h2n would be in the same room ?

    Here is one video of it with the Fan Noise:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6js7axHUnw

    Also, whats the equivalent of Canon's CMOS Pro in Panasonic ?
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post
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    Next best is the Panasonic HDC-TM900 (~$899).
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/760479-REG/Panasonic_HDCTM900E_HDC_TM900_High_De...ition_PAL.html

    budwzr, he needs the audio features of the G-10 or TM900.
    Thanks Ed, ill try to find its equivalent in UAE.

    Ill have to check the stores for its price.

    I checked some reviews of Panasonic HDC-TM900, there seems to be an issue with Fan Noise. Bu ti guess it wont be an issue since i would be using Zoom H2n for recording the audio seperately and not using the Cam's audio.

    But would the fan noise interfere with the Zoom h2n's recording since both the cam and the zoom h2n would be in the same room ?

    Here is one video of it with the Fan Noise:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6js7axHUnw

    Also, whats the equivalent of Canon's CMOS Pro in Panasonic ?
    I don't fully understand the "fan noise" issue. The camcorder doesn't have a fan.

    I suggest you never use the built in mic for your type of recording. That is why the external mic features (manual level control, AGC off) are so important. There will be no fan noise with external mic(s) placed close to talent.

    Correction
    The camcorder doesn't have a fan.
    Those guys claim it does have a fan. But as said, you should be using an external mike close to the talent.
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    Originally Posted by AjnabiZ View Post

    Also, whats the equivalent of Canon's CMOS Pro in Panasonic ?
    The Panasonic also has a single CMOS sensor that is close to low light performance of the G10. See the results in the camcorderinfo tests. The TM900 came in second.
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    One thing I don't think has been mentioned - whatever external mic you end up getting, make sure it's isolated from any vibrations. If you put the mic on a table in front of your teacher and he has a habit of tapping the desk during class or putting books down, this could easily screw up the recording.

    Also, if the mic is on a stand, and anyone's walking nearby you might have the same issue.

    I've done very little audio recording, so I'll pass the buck and let others suggest workarounds if they think it'll be an issue.

    The TM900 has 3 sensor imaging system.
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    Originally Posted by intracube View Post
    One thing I don't think has been mentioned - whatever external mic you end up getting, make sure it's isolated from any vibrations. If you put the mic on a table in front of your teacher and he has a habit of tapping the desk during class or putting books down, this could easily screw up the recording.
    Hmm Thanks intracube, thats a good advice. Ill certainly take a note of that and inform the speaker of the issues.
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    Just found out the pricing for Panasonic Cams:


    Panasonic HDC-TM900 = 1,252.11 USD

    Panasonic HDC-SD900 = 1,170.43 USD



    SD900 is cheaper, i tried finding it in bhphoto but it was not listed there and neither it was at Camcorderinfo

    But i found a review on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_3peCqY78

    The sales person told me that the main difference between TM900 and SD900 is that the SD does not have Built-in Internal Memory Storage.


    @edDV, What do you advice, SD or TM ?

    Here is the comparison from panasonic website

    http://panasonic.net/avc/camcorder/hd/900_800_series/

    It seems the only difference is the Built in memory.
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    Is it possible to record Video only and disable Audio in the Camcorder while recording ?
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