Default Subtitles?

[lamprey]

I did some searching and didn't see an answer to my question. My search-foo might be weak, so I hope this isn't a repeat...

I'm ripping my blu-rays as main movie only in BD folder structure to my file server using AnyDVDHD and tsMuxer. I've been doing it for a while an everything seems to be working great. Recently, I've bought some foreign language movies, so I've also included a single english subtitle track. Everything works geat except I don't see any way to set the subtitle as a default.

Bascially, I just want to default the english subtitle track so that it plays without having to select the track. Is that doable with tsMuxer?

Thanks,

-Lamprey

[fritzi93]

Not that I know of with tsMuxer alone.

But you can set the subtitles to "forced" with BDSup2Sub. Demux the sub stream with tsMuxer. Load the subtitles in BDSup2Sub. The conversion window will appear. Do not convert the resolution or frame rate. Notice the Global Forced Flags box at lower left. For force all select "set all". That will make the subs forced. Export as *.sup, then remux in the new subtitle stream in tsMuxer (don't forget to set language as English), deselecting the old one. Mux to Blu-ray.

Note that you can also "turn on" subtitles in BDRB by right-clicking and turning on the sub stream. But that only works if you're re-encoding an oversized movie to fit a BD25 (single-layer BDR). Earlier versions you could force a re-encode, but you could never force a rebuild alone. I think you can do it though with HDConvertToX without a re-encode, I'd have to test. But for your purposes, doing it as above is probably going to be satisfactory.

There is one little thing though...you can't turn them off in a set-top player when you do it that way. Forced subs are not the same as default on.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.

[lamprey]

Fritzi,

Thanks for the response! I'll giving the forced subtitles a shot and see how it goes.

Cheers!

[fritzi93]

Hey, you piqued my interest, so I tried to find a better way to do it. Here it is:

1) Make a copy of your entire Blu-Ray folder somewhere on your computer. This copy is for editing, keep the original just in case you make a mistake. You may eventually get confident enough to skip this step. Also in "Options" you can enable backups and specify a folder to put the backups in. I think there's less chance for confusion/mistakes if you just work on a copy to start with.

2) Open the (copied) folder in BDEdit. Click the BDMV tab. Click "Read".

3) On the right side there are two fields. Click the "+" next to the lower field; this creates a new line for the command you're going to add. If the new line is not already highlighted, do so by clicking on it now. On the three drop-down boxes at the bottom left of the field, do the following, starting from left to right: "Set" for the first box, "Set System" for the second one, and "Set Stream" for the third. In that order.

4) There are to the right of the three set boxes two more drop-down boxes, stacked one on top of the other. Set both to "Imm".

5) Okay, there are two boxes to the right of the last two which specify the exact command. The bottom one should be a zero. The top one is where you set the stream for "ON". Which leads us to:

6) For turning on a subtitle, the values are from 49153 for the first subtitle stream, 49154 for the second subtitle stream, and so on. If you only have one it's easy, enter "49153". (Make sure the two stacked check boxes all the way to the right are ticked.) Save and exit.

7) For turning on a specific audio stream (making it the default) the procedure is the same, the values starting at 80010000 for the first stream, 80020000 for the second, and so on. Each command requires its own new line, BTW.

That's it. Test the edited folder to make sure your subtitles are now "turned on", in whatever software player you're using, like TMT or (ughh) PowerDVD. Or burn to a rewritable to test on your set-top player or whatever. I just finished a test and it worked fine. The selected sub stream is defaulted "ON", but it *can* be turned off or another stream selected.

I confess I've been wrestling with BDEdit off and on for some time now, but I'm slowly working it out. Not the most user-friendly program.

Good luck.

[lamprey]

I have not used BDEdit before, but if that works, that'd be sweet! Thanks for posting this mini-guide for me (and others)!!

[lamprey]

I just did a quick test on one of the movies I need subtitles for (Red Cliff) and it worked like a charm!!

Thanks again!

[fritzi93]

Good job. And again, welcome to the forum.

[EDIT] I should add, eventually you'll come across a Blu-Ray in which the main movie is split across multiple m2ts files. Occasionally this will be a problem with tsMuxer, causing loss of audio sync.

The solution is to use Clown_BD instead to extract main movie and join the m2ts files correctly. You can also downconvert the audio at the same time if you wish. Output to Blu-Ray folder.

[johns0]

Multiavchd will let you set the subs to play without need to select them.