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    My Blu ray player is a LG BD550.

    Im using a WD1TB USB External Hard Drive that connects to the USB port to play .avi and .mkv files.

    Certain files play fine on both avi and mkv.

    However certain 1080p mkv files dont play while others do. On the ones that wont play I get a message saying "this movie may not play properly", however it plays fine on my laptop.

    Ive done a bit of reading about it and have remuxed it to disable header removal compression for audio and video tracks by default.

    On Episode 1 of Band of Brothers this worked, however on the 2nd episode it didn't.

    Ive put both files into media info to see if there is any difference with the files:


    General

    Unique ID :202817418428781202066081059065688005134 (0x989536C4BDB6F55EB25B500BCF309A0E)

    Complete name :C:\Users\Laptop\Desktop\Episode 1 (1).mkv

    Format : Matroska

    Format version : Version 2

    File size : 6.56 GiB

    Duration : 1h 13mn

    Overall bit rate : 12.8 Mbps

    Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-16 22:41:08

    Writing application : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will')built on Jul 11 2011 23:53:15

    Writing library : libebml v1.2.1 +libmatroska v1.1.1



    Video

    ID : 1

    Format : AVC

    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

    Format profile : High@L4.1

    Format settings, CABAC : Yes

    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames

    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

    Duration : 1h 13mn

    Bit rate : 10.9 Mbps

    Width : 1 920 pixels

    Height : 1 080 pixels

    Display aspect ratio : 16:9

    Frame rate : 23.976 fps

    Color space : YUV

    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

    Bit depth : 8 bits

    Scan type : Progressive

    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.220

    Stream size : 5.46 GiB (83%)

    Writing library : x264 core 65 r1029M cb3c213

    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 /deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 /mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 /deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0/ bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 /keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10943 /ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 /qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

    Language : English



    Audio #1

    ID : 2

    Format : DTS

    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems

    Codec ID : A_DTS

    Duration : 1h 13mn

    Bit rate mode : Constant

    Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps

    Channel(s) : 6 channels

    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

    Bit depth : 16 bits

    Compression mode : Lossy

    Stream size : 791 MiB (12%)

    Title : eng

    Language : English



    Audio #2

    ID : 3

    Format : AC-3

    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3

    Mode extension : CM (complete main)

    Codec ID : A_AC3

    Duration : 1h 13mn

    Bit rate mode : Constant

    Bit rate : 384 Kbps

    Channel(s) : 6 channels

    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

    Bit depth : 16 bits

    Compression mode : Lossy

    Stream size : 201 MiB (3%)
    Title :
    Language : Chinese




    and Episode 2

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    Unique ID :221319570168213684286967065279083612468 (0xA680994774D3C91DAACB45AAEC9C8934)

    Complete name :C:\Users\Laptop\Desktop\Episode 5.mkv

    Format : Matroska

    Format version : Version 1

    File size : 6.56 GiB

    Duration : 55mn 42s

    Overall bit rate : 16.9 Mbps

    Encoded date : UTC 2008-12-08 05:12:30

    Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It OnAgain') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26

    Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 +libmatroska v0.8.1



    Video

    ID : 1

    Format : AVC

    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

    Format profile : High@L5.1

    Format settings, CABAC : Yes

    Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames

    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

    Duration : 55mn 42s

    Bit rate : 15.0 Mbps

    Width : 1 920 pixels

    Height : 1 080 pixels

    Display aspect ratio : 16:9

    Frame rate : 23.976 fps

    Color space : YUV

    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

    Bit depth : 8 bits

    Scan type : Progressive

    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.301

    Stream size : 5.69 GiB (87%)

    Writing library : x264 core 65 r1029M cb3c213

    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 /deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 /mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 /deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0/ bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 /keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=14983 /ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 /qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

    Language : English



    Audio #1

    ID : 2

    Format : DTS

    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems

    Codec ID : A_DTS

    Duration : 55mn 42s

    Bit rate mode : Constant

    Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps

    Channel(s) : 6 channels

    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

    Bit depth : 16 bits

    Compression mode : Lossy

    Stream size : 602 MiB (9%)

    Title : eng

    Language : English



    Audio #2

    ID : 3

    Format : AC-3

    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3

    Mode extension : CM (complete main)

    Codec ID : A_AC3

    Duration : 55mn 42s

    Bit rate mode : Constant

    Bit rate : 384 Kbps

    Channel(s) : 6 channels

    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

    Bit depth : 16 bits

    Compression mode : Lossy

    Stream size : 153 MiB (2%)

    Title :

    Language : Chinese




    Can anyone help to see what the difference is between the 2 files? My guess is that the files are 2 different ones inside the mkv container and my Blu Ray player can play one type and not the other.

    The LG BD550 can play other 1080p mkv files fine.
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  2. For #2 , L5.1 is problematic, likely the reason . Most hardware chips only support high@L4.1 or lower

    Format profile : High@L5.1
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    Just checked a sample of Star Wars 1080p

    General
    Unique ID : 180557583677431400741794489911472842234 (0x87D6202E780041E0B74DD52A2C6C65FA)
    Complete name : C:\Users\Laptop\Desktop\Star.Wars.1977-1983.BluRay.1080p.DTSES6.1 2Audio.x264-CHD\Star.Wars.Episode.4.A.New.Hope.1977.BluRay.108 0p.DTSES6.1.2Audio.x264-CHD\sample.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 101 MiB
    Duration : 45s 726ms
    Overall bit rate : 18.5 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-08-30 01:32:21
    Writing application : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') 编译于 Feb 12 2010 16:46:17
    Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 45s 712ms
    Bit rate : 16.5 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.438
    Stream size : 89.7 MiB (89%)
    Title : Star.Wars.Episode.4.A.New.Hope.1977
    Language : English
    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format profile : ES
    Codec ID : A_DTS
    Duration : 45s 726ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 7 channels / 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 51ms
    Stream size : 8.23 MiB (8%)
    Title : DTS-CORE ES6.1 1536K
    Language : English
    Audio #2
    ID : 3
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 45s 726ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 30ms
    Stream size : 1.05 MiB (1%)
    Title : DD2.0 192K
    Language : Chinese
    Again the Format profile is High@L4.1. This mkv works so it must be this.

    Is there anyway I can re-encode a file to make it high@L4.1?
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    Thank You for the help because it was the format.

    Fo anyone reading this in the future with the same problem you can use http://coolsoft.altervista.org/h264leveleditor to change the level and put it to 4.1. mkv's are working fine now.

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    Got the file working so making progress but the picture is now suffering from Pixelation.

    Any ideas?
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    just changing the text in the file to @4.1 doesn't change the video from @5.1 - for that you need to re-encode it.
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    Ok thanks, Ill have a search around on what is best to re encode the file to 4.1
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  8. I bet more than 4 re-frames on a 1080p video is the problem. You have to re-encode to change that.
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    my lg 570 and 670 can handle 5 reframes.
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    So I will need a full re-encode of the mkv file? Will it lose qaulity?
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  11. Originally Posted by Pipster2797 View Post
    So I will need a full re-encode of the mkv file?
    Yes.

    Originally Posted by Pipster2797 View Post
    Will it lose qaulity?
    Yes. If you do it well, you won't lose much quality. You might not even notice.
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    This one wouldnt play at all until changed it to 4.1. plays fine now despite it being 8 frames too and no Pixelation

    General
    Unique ID : 229799830465160644162561093545414835033 (0xACE1D6647C717E03BF8AF936D3FF3B59)
    Complete name : G:\Movies\Blu Ray\1080p\Star Wars 1080p\Episode IV - A New Hope.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 1
    File size : 7.95 GiB
    Duration : 1h 59mn
    Overall bit rate : 9 513 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2007-09-01 15:40:45
    Writing application : mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:55
    Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
    Video
    ID : 2
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 59mn
    Bit rate : 9 126 Kbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.233
    Stream size : 7.47 GiB (94%)
    Writing library : x264 core 56 svn-667C
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-4:-4 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=4,6 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=9126 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / zones=173169,179370,b=0.15 / aq=1:0.3:15.0
    Language : English
    Audio
    ID : 3
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 1h 59mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 328 MiB (4%)
    Language : English
    Text
    ID : 1
    Format : UTF-8
    Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
    Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Language : English
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  13. Originally Posted by Pipster2797 View Post
    This one wouldnt play at all until changed it to 4.1. plays fine now despite it being 8 frames too and no Pixelation
    The encoder will usually only use a few re-frames but will sometimes go higher, as high as the limit that's specified.
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    Thanks for the help.
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  15. By accident i found out, the video timings weren't correct. You can fix this with mkvtoolnix, by selecting the video stream and on the rightside select rewrite video timings.
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  16. Originally Posted by mark1978 View Post
    By accident i found out, the video timings weren't correct. You can fix this with mkvtoolnix, by selecting the video stream and on the rightside select rewrite video timings.
    Still the freezing error.
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