Bluray making

[Ergman]

Hello everybody i m very new in this forum infact this is my first post!!
i hope i am in the right place and i hope someone can help.
So here s the matter:
I bought a bluray burner hoping i could make nice bluray with multiple contents and fairly decent menus to play on my BD player and eventually also make some back-up of my wide collection of movies.
Since the very first day i have been struggling with programs like tsmuxer, handbrake (i am a mac user) toast also multiavchd on windows and many others
but my problem is that for example i ve got 2 m2ts files one of them has a dts hd-ma and the other just a standard m2ts with full hd content, well i can't just burn it with toast cos it wants to reencode the whole thing and i can't use tsmuxer to create a menu so basically i am stuck do you know any program which could help me to make a nice menu and eventually burn both movie tracks without reencoding the dts hd ma in a nice bluray disc playable on ps3?

Kind regards PEOPLE

[dragonkeeper]

On Mac? I know of none lack of software options for other OS is the primary reason i have continued with Microsofts products so long.

If you have an intel based Mac i would either install windows as a virtual system or go multi-boot. Mutiavchd works wonders I usually try to make sure my audio and video is to spec before loading in to MultiAvchd, as long as i do this i have had no problems using the program.

[Ergman]

hi thanks for the fast reply, yeah i m trying to use windows to do this too every time i open multiavchd i get an error code. i should try maybe with the desktop computer i ve got a windows desktop also so maybe that s gonna work tomorrow i m going back home to sweden so i ll try and see if that works. i ll keep posted!

[jman98]

Ergman - multiavchd works fine for most BluRay players, but there are a small number of them that can't play anything it produces. I have such a player (Momitsu) unfortunately. I'd suggest that if you get it working that you make some test discs on either re-writable BluRay discs or just create a DVD-5 sized file and burn to DVD+/-RW discs. Depending on how fussy your BluRay player is you may not necessarily be able to play what multiavchd produces and you may need to change the settings a little until you get something that works so you may not want to do your first burn to a write once disc.

[Ergman]

Here s the news, i did tried to see what was going on and why i kept getting the error message and so far as i ve understood it happens because my file is not full hd compliant the truth is that the file its 1920*1040 so i can't get working into multiavchd unless the subjected file, wich is an mkv, would be crop, just touching the VIDEO track even doing a reencoding in order to make it full hd compliant and then readd it to the audio partition?if yes how can i do that?
regards E.

[dragonkeeper]

my file is not full hd compliant the truth is that the file its 1920*1040
regards E.

MutiAVCHD has a transcode feature which can uncrop a file (all it does is add borders to the top and bottom of the video in this case it will add 20 pix border to to and bottom).
There is also a stand alone tool that called UncropMKV will do the same thing, but it all so allows one to re-size the image to re-size as well (in mos cases I would re-size the video to 1280*720).

[Ergman]

thanks for the fast reply dragon ive tried the program but i always get this error avsinfo.exe stopped working i dono why! any suggestion??

[dragonkeeper]

There is most likley a problem with the AVS script, or cpdec problem (PC doesn't have a needed codec and decoding fails). Could you post the script here. And use mediainfo on the file you are tying to transcode and post the details here.

[Ergman]

roger i m trying right now!! thanks for the info

[Ergman]

ok this is one of the file i m trying to uncrop to 1080p or anyway hdcompilant, it says FIRST VIDEO STREAM 643 kbps 1280*696 (16:9) at 23.976, AVC (HIGH@L4.1) (CABAC / 4 Ref frames) no idea how to reencode this, the idea was to use mkvuncrop but it did nt work so i tried to take the video partition from the mkv but reencoding from there it looks to be a very loooooong process and also i m not quite happy about its result... what do you suggest people??

[dragonkeeper]

no idea how to reencode this, the idea was to use mkvuncrop but it did nt work.

It would probably be easier to figure out why Multiavchd is choking on your video, please post the information i asked for earlier and i can try to help you with that.

so i tried to take the video partition from the mkv but reencoding from there it looks to be a very loooooong process

Transcoding with MultiAVCD is fairly quick, when compared to a typical re-encode, do change your qulity setting to a minimum of "1 pass" as i think Mutiavchd defaults to "1 pass turbo". The time it takes to do this is pretty much solely based on the machine your working on. For instance if your on a laptop with a 5400 RPM Hard drive the hard drive will be a bottle neck. As your performing reading and writing operations to the hard drive at the same time.

I can get a little over 24 FPS when transcoding a 1280 * 720 video. From start to burned BD5 a 90 minute movie takes a little less than two hours on a quad core @ 2.71 Ghz.

also i m not quite happy about its result... what do you suggest people??

I've been happy with the results generated from MultiAVCHD, I change the default quality setting from "Turbo" to "1 pass".

You can also try AVCHDCoder, but mind you AVCHD disk are not compatible with all players. As i remember AVCHDCoder is quality based as such it will be much slower than transcoding with multiavchd

[Ergman]

Transcoding with MultiAVCD is fairly quick
i ll try to post the log! in transcoding multiavchd its quite quick for me too but the problem really is that until i don't get this file to be at 1040 i don't think its gonna work!! i ll post a log

now i went to look around and i was thinking: and if i would take the whole mkv and i would go on ubuntu partition and recompile the file in mp4 and then try again with multiavchd?? i m seriously thinking about that lol do you think it would be possible?? my HD is 7200 rpm its the momentum xt i m not complaining so much about the speed if i manage to reencode it to a m2ts and it was quite fast but the problem is that the uncropmkv stops and so the multiavchd!

[dragonkeeper]

Transcoding with MultiAVCD is fairly quick
i ll try to post the log! in transcoding multiavchd its quite quick for me too but the problem really is that until i don't get this file to be at 1040 i don't think its gonna work!! i ll post a log

You should be able to set the size when you transcode. The image below shows a movie that has been cropped to 1280*544. I'm using the transcoder to restore the black bars and make the movie 1280*720.

[Ergman]

ok i manage to transcode for the first time finally the problem was that i did nt have installed the codec (avisynth) that s why i used to get AVSINFO.exe stopping (FOR EVERBODY OUYT THERE READING INSTALL AVISYNTH OTHERWISE MULTIAVCHD WONT WORK))) ..

[Ergman]

THE FORUM DOES NT LET ME POST ANY NEW THREAD SO I LL TRY POSTING IT HERE :
avi stream and cud a technology, are they supported in multiavchd?
if yes: how?
i m more interested in ati as i ve got an ati card!!
THANKS

[dragonkeeper]

THE FORUM DOES NT LET ME POST ANY NEW THREAD SO I LL TRY POSTING IT HERE :
avi stream and cud a technology, are they supported in multiavchd?
if yes: how?
i m more interested in ati as i ve got an ati card!!
THANKS

GPU assisted encoding does not have the quality of CPU encoding. You can achieve simlillar speeds and better quality using the fast or very fast preset. That is if you have a decent rig i5 or better or AMD quad core @ 3GHz or better.

[Ergman]

i ve got an i7 2600k and it works quite good in vhq 2 pass it goes at 27fps or faster so actually faster than the movie itself but... still it heats a lot the cpu right now i ve the in stock fan for this pourpose i ve got to buy a water cooler temperatures yesterday i was testing and reached 87 degrees it could have damaged the cpu if i would nt have realized on time, while my ati radeon 6850 on reencoding takes about an hour an 10 mins.. so the half of the time.. using and video converter.. however i was wondering if it was possible to implement technologies such as cuda or ati stream to the multiavchd that would go so much faster i believe?!

[dragonkeeper]

Again to achieve similar quality, GPU assisted encoding should be avoided. I would you use a single "CQ 18-22" pass instead of two pass, you will get the same quality but you will not be able to pick your target size. With CQ youi pick a quality setting and the encoder determines the bit rate required for each frame to achieve that quality. With two pass people generally pick a target size and the encoder determines the amount of bit rate to allocate per frame to hit your target size. In essence CQ can acheive better quality on a similarly size file. But if you are insistent on using two pass try change bframes 3 and reframes 3 and subme 2. Changing these should speed things up considerably.

Also even on stock cooler i don't think the i5 should be getting that hot. You may have poor circulation within the case (in which case your vid card and hard drives could be in jeopardy as well, i would invest in a fan controller that can monitor internal temps) or if this was a DIY project you could have added to much thermal paste I've seen this many times to much paste or improperly applied paste can cause significant heat build up as much as +10 degrees Celsius.

[borst_one]

hello guys,

I am new to this forum and found this thread because it's about the same program i use right now. Also I found some of the tipps from dragonkeeper quite helpful, so I fought, I might ask one or two questions myself!

I am currently working on some holiday videos for friends, which were recorded on a sony hd camcorder. The device records the videos in *.mts files. With MultiAVCHD I finally found a program that is able to join the single files of one holiday trip to one big file and that can also reencode (or transcode, whatever sounds more right to you) to a AVCHD format that I can burn on DVD-R's.

I started transcoding the first videos yesterday. I worked out to find the right options for resizing to a DVD-9 and to adapt the bitrate and so on. But after I started the reencoding process and changed the program usage from 'normal' to 'real-time' it still seemed like the program just used half of the available threads of my CPU and just with 50% workload. So until now, the reencoding of 3 and a half hours of material on real time took me more than 12 hours until now. And the progression bar didn't even reach 65% until now.

Therefore I have some questions on how I can speed up that process for the future! Currently I am encoding on 1pass Insane, since I found an explanation where someone said, that would be a fast method. I have no idea whether he is right

Transcoding with MultiAVCD is fairly quick, when compared to a typical re-encode, do change your qulity setting to a minimum of "1 pass" as i think Mutiavchd defaults to "1 pass turbo". The time it takes to do this is pretty much solely based on the machine your working on. For instance if your on a laptop with a 5400 RPM Hard drive the hard drive will be a bottle neck. As your performing reading and writing operations to the hard drive at the same time.

I can get a little over 24 FPS when transcoding a 1280 * 720 video. From start to burned BD5 a 90 minute movie takes a little less than two hours on a quad core @ 2.71 Ghz.

You say a slow hard drive can be the bottleneck in that process. ATM I have the orignal files and the output directory for the reencoding on the same disk. Since I own an SSD, what would be the best way to use the speed of that drive? Reading from one hard drive and transcoding on to the SSD?

Also, how can I get MultiAVCHD to use the full potential of my CPU. Or is that problem directly related to the bottle neck situation of the hard drive? I am not using a 5400 RPM drive, but just a normal 7200 RPM hard disk from which I read and to which I write...

I would be grateful for some hints and tipps, since I don't like wasting time due to wrong settings

kind regards,

borst_one

[borst_one]

Ok, I aborted the process. After more than 15 hours (!!) he just encoded one of three files.
What the heck am I doing wrong. Where's the mistake in my settings?

Here's the log

[01:34:40] [AUTO-FIT]: Title#01 4277 kbps, 1440x1080 -> 1440x810 -> 1920x1080
[01:34:40] [AUTO-FIT]: Title#02 4726 kbps, 1440x1080 -> 1440x810 -> 1920x1080
[01:34:40] [AUTO-FIT]: Title#03 4826 kbps, 1440x1080 -> 1440x810 -> 1920x1080

[01:34:50] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[01:34:51] Destination [G:]: NTFS, 504580.02 MiB (492.754 GiB) free space
[01:34:51] Temp folder [G:]: NTFS, 504580.02 MiB (492.754 GiB) free space

[01:34:51] Log started for multiAVCHD v4.1 (build 770)
[01:34:51] Selected output mode: AVCHD compatible player (DVD/BD-R disc) [Restricted]

[01:34:51] Processing 3 titles...
[01:34:51] Existing G:\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[01:34:51] Output will be written to: G:\AVCHD-20120117-013451
[01:34:51] Strict AVCHD folder mode is enabled...
[01:34:52] Processing (G:\MERGED FILES\2008-01_Robinson_Luxor.m2ts)...
[01:34:52] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[01:34:52] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[01:34:52] *** Initiating video encoding:

[01:34:52] *** Original : 1440x1080
[01:34:52] *** Crop : 0
[01:34:52] *** Resize : 1440x810
[01:34:52] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[01:34:52] *** Sharpen : 0
[01:34:52] *** Bitrate : 4277 kbps
[01:34:52] *** Frame rate: Original (25.000)
[01:34:52] *** Level : 4
[01:34:52] *** Quality : One pass (insane)
[01:34:52] *** SAR : 1:1
[01:34:52] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[01:34:52] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[01:34:52] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:52:59]
[01:34:52] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset ultrafast -B 4277 --interlaced --direct spatial -I 25 --level 4 -i 24 -b 3 -m 0 -r 4 --ipratio 1.4 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads auto --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --me dia --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --rc-lookahead 0 -o "G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20120117\2008-01_Robinson_Luxor.[1920x1080-25.000].264" "G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20120117\20120117-013452-uncrop-running.avs"
[14:54:40] *** Close to completion - closing preview...
[17:21:53] Visit http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/donate/ to support this project!
[17:21:53] *** Speed : 1.4 fps (elapsed: 15:47:01 - Realtime x 0.06)

[17:21:53] *** Transcoding successful!

[17:21:53] Detected frame reference count: 3 (max:4).
[17:21:53] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=1 157.273, ref=3
[17:21:53] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[17:21:53] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[17:21:53] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[17:21:53] Media split set at 4000MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
================================================== =============================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@4.0 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 1157.27
H.264 manual setted fps not equal stream fps. Change H.264 fps from 1157.27 to 1
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
Processed 1286507 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 1 min 16 sec
================================================== =============================

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tsMuxeR meta:
================================================== =============================
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000 --split-size=4000MiB --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20120117\2008-01_Robinson_Luxor.[1920x1080-25.000].264", insertSEI, contSPS, fps=1 157.273
A_AC3, "G:\MERGED FILES\2008-01_Robinson_Luxor.m2ts", track=4352, lang=und, timeshift=0ms
================================================== =============================
[17:23:06] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[17:23:06] Processing playlist...
[17:23:06] Title #1 added: "2008/01/21 10:53:06 (2008-01 Robinson Luxor)"
[17:23:06] Verifying title...
[17:23:08] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[17:23:09] Processing (G:\MERGED FILES\2008-01_Suedafrika.m2ts)...
[17:23:09] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[17:23:09] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[17:23:09] *** Initiating video encoding:

[17:23:09] *** Original : 1440x1080
[17:23:09] *** Crop : 0
[17:23:09] *** Resize : 1440x810
[17:23:09] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[17:23:09] *** Sharpen : 0
[17:23:09] *** Bitrate : 4726 kbps
[17:23:09] *** Frame rate: Original (25.000)
[17:23:09] *** Level : 4
[17:23:09] *** Quality : One pass (insane)
[17:23:09] *** SAR : 1:1
[17:23:09] *** DAR : 1920x1080
[17:23:09] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[17:23:09] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [01:59:43]
[17:23:09] *** Encoding : x264 options: --preset ultrafast -B 4726 --interlaced --direct spatial -I 25 --level 4 -i 24 -b 3 -m 0 -r 4 --ipratio 1.4 --vbv-bufsize 15000 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --qcomp 0.5 --threads auto --thread-input --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --me dia --b-pyramid strict --slices 0 --weightp 0 --rc-lookahead 0 -o "G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20120117\2008-01_Suedafrika.[1920x1080-25.000].264" "G:\_TEMP\multiTEMP-20120117\20120117-172309-uncrop-running.avs"
[17:24:16] User requested stop!
[17:24:16] *** Speed : 2656.05 fps (elapsed: 00:01:07 - Realtime x 106.24)

[17:24:16] *** Transcoding successful!

[17:24:16] Aborting...

[17:24:16] Aborting...
[17:24:16] Aborting...