issue with editing a blueray movie

[owned66]

hi all
im having a issue here
i want to edit parts of a movie out

1.got the anydvd HD trial and ripped my movie out

there was one large M2ts file so i got that and tried to import it into sony vegas pro 10

"the file could not be opened"

google it a bit and found people with the same issue but no help


so i thought why not use ripbot264 and change it to MKV so i can edit it
vegas cant work with MKV

so then i got why not use tsMuxer and change the container to TS
"the file could not be opened"
(vlc worked with it normally)

so i used tssniper and gave me an error on both TS and M2ts

so then i tried tsdoctor and worked (m2ts) but it was very hard to work with almost impossible

so i thought i might have some luck removing the container :P and using the vc-1 and the audio file separately but sony dosnt like vc-1 either ......

maybe i did something wrong when i ripped the movie with anydvd

any help ?

EDIT: one thing i noticed vlc dosnt give me " time " i mean for example the movie is 1:50 hr long vlc shows 00:00 but MPC shows the correct value

another thing is that TS doctor PES on video stream detected "this could be problematic" (save value yes/no)

[fritzi93]

I would guess a decoder/splitter problem.

VLC uses internal decoders, hence it worked; tsSniper needs Haali and ffdshow, hence it did not work.

Try installing ffdshow, v.3382 and Haali splitter v.1.11.96.14. The correct versions available on the first post of this page:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

In tsSniper settings, set preferred splitter to Haali AR.

You should fill in your computer details so we don't have to guess. If you're using XP, install udfReader for good measure. I hope you don't have a codec pack installed.

And welcome to the forum.

[EDIT] Leave Haali configuration alone. In ffdshow Video Decoder Configuration, click Codecs upper left. In the Format column find H.264/AVC. Click the entry in the Decoder column and select ffmpeg-mt from the drop-down list. For VC-1, select WMV9. For MPEG2, select libmpeg2. Apply and close.

[owned66]

did what u said still didnt work
the file being loaded does not contain a usable video track

[edDV]

hi all
im having a issue here
i want to edit parts of a movie out

1.got the anydvd HD trial and ripped my movie out

there was one large M2ts file so i got that and tried to import it into sony vegas pro 10

"the file could not be opened"

google it a bit and found people with the same issue but no help


so i thought why not use ripbot264 and change it to MKV so i can edit it
vegas cant work with MKV

so then i got why not use tsMuxer and change the container to TS
"the file could not be opened"
(vlc worked with it normally)

so i used tssniper and gave me an error on both TS and M2ts

so then i tried tsdoctor and worked (m2ts) but it was very hard to work with almost impossible

so i thought i might have some luck removing the container :P and using the vc-1 and the audio file separately but sony dosnt like vc-1 either ......

maybe i did something wrong when i ripped the movie with anydvd

any help ?

EDIT: one thing i noticed vlc dosnt give me " time " i mean for example the movie is 1:50 hr long vlc shows 00:00 but MPC shows the correct value

another thing is that TS doctor PES on video stream detected "this could be problematic" (save value yes/no)

I haven't attempted this myself but have some global thoughts and I'll explain how I would approach the problem.

First Vegas isn't intended for opening a Blu-Ray project. It does specifically support import of various camcorder formats including AVCHD m2ts import which is limited to one h.264 video stream at specific bit rates with AC3 stereo audio (PCM stereo for NXCAM).

Blu-Ray m2ts includes multiple video and audio tracks (maybe two dozen tracks total) plus captions and other data.

Second, they may actually block anything that looks like Blu-Ray m2ts.

First I would demux the blu-Ray m2ts and isolate the video and audio tracks of interest. Start with video only and see if that loads into Vegas. Most Blu-Ray discs are 24p so match the project setting to the source format.

Second determine the audio format and convert it to an audio format Vegas will accept such as multitrack PCM or AC3 2.0 or 5.1.

If that doesn't work you can convert bit rates and/or frame rates to match a supported camcorder format such as AVCHD or NXCAM.

[aedipuss]

i don't think vegas pro has ever supported or been able to import the vc-1 video type.

[edDV]

I missed that it was VC-1. Was assuming h.264 or MPeg2.

[fritzi93]

I downloaded the sample you linked to in the PM you sent me. (You'd be well advised in future to let everyone see any relevant information, the chances someone can put his finger on your problem will be better).

MediaInfo doesn't show anything wrong with your clip, and it plays in MPCHC. (And I should have told you that tsSniper won't accept VC-1 or DTS. You need to first convert to AVC or MPEG2 for the video, and AC3 for the audio).

[EDIT] Yes, it's VC-1 and DTS-HD.

Anyway, my earlier suggestions were not entirely useless. You're now properly configured to use BDRB and other Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray programs.

[owned66]

I downloaded the sample you linked to in the PM you sent me. (You'd be well advised in future to let everyone see any relevant information, the chances someone can put his finger on your problem will be better).

MediaInfo doesn't show anything wrong with your clip, and it plays in MPCHC. (And I should have told you that tsSniper won't accept VC-1 or DTS. You need to first convert to AVC or MPEG2 for the video, and AC3 for the audio).

[EDIT] Yes, it's VC-1 and DTS-HD.

Anyway, my earlier suggestions were not entirely useless. You're now properly configured to use BDRB and other Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray programs.

what software do you recommend so i could convert it?
(the container should be Ts so i can use it with Tssniper)
thank you for you help
im looking at mediacoder but coudnt find a tutorial from 1:1 conversion or anything close to perfect just a bunch of guides for 720p

[owned66]

bump

[aedipuss]

maybe try multiavchd

[fritzi93]

You can use BDRB, it will convert the video to AVC (H,264), and the audio to AC3 640 kps unless you tell it not to in settings. The target size must be smaller than the original to force a re-encode, taking into account the fact that re-encoding from DTS-HD or True-HD will in itself save at least several GBs of space.

Then tsSniper will be able to load the *.m2ts file in the STREAM folder. I have done this from time to time, and you need to take care not to push the program too hard, or it will crash. (Seeking the file will be slowish, when jumping ahead/back don't do anything else until it completes seeking, a couple seconds at least). More often, I edit *.ts captures at considerably lower bitrates.

But you should know that H.264 is difficult to edit, and AFAIK, the only freeware able to do a reasonable job of it is tsSniper. (Good enough, with practice, to edit out commercials from HD-PVR captures.) It's not frame accurate, cutting on key frames only. Maybe one of the pay programs can do better, I dunno, not having tried any.

Maybe it would be better for you to just cut with tsMuxer. Watch the video with MPCHC or whatever and note down the in and out times.

Anything so highly compressed is bound to be rather difficult to edit. Most members here who do much editing do it uncompressed or in lossless format of some type. Home theater hobbyists generally don't bother trying to edit much, except for captures.

Can we ask why you need to do this?

[owned66]

You can use BDRB, it will convert the video to AVC (H,264), and the audio to AC3 640 kps unless you tell it not to in settings. The target size must be smaller than the original to force a re-encode, taking into account the fact that re-encoding from DTS-HD or True-HD will in itself save at least several GBs of space.

Then tsSniper will be able to load the *.m2ts file in the STREAM folder. I have done this from time to time, and you need to take care not to push the program too hard, or it will crash. (Seeking the file will be slowish, when jumping ahead/back don't do anything else until it completes seeking, a couple seconds at least). More often, I edit *.ts captures at considerably lower bitrates.

But you should know that H.264 is difficult to edit, and AFAIK, the only freeware able to do a reasonable job of it is tsSniper. (Good enough, with practice, to edit out commercials from HD-PVR captures.) It's not frame accurate, cutting on key frames only. Maybe one of the pay programs can do better, I dunno, not having tried any.

Maybe it would be better for you to just cut with tsMuxer. Watch the video with MPCHC or whatever and note down the in and out times.

Anything so highly compressed is bound to be rather difficult to edit. Most members here who do much editing do it uncompressed or in lossless format of some type. Home theater hobbyists generally don't bother trying to edit much, except for captures.

Can we ask why you need to do this?

its strange
i noticed that the ONLY program out there that can edit(cut) parts out of a movie and keep the DTS-HD - True HD track without changing it is tsMuxer even vegas studio HD platinium cant do that

tsmuxer is a pain to work with because i need frame by frame editing
and going back and forth with MPC is tiresome

i guess ill have to settle with freemake video converter its the only program i found that can edit movies convert the audio and video all in one go

if you know any software that can edit videos and keep the true HD etc intact please let me know ill pay to dollar for it

and for your question well there is a movie i have and its one of those movies that start at the end then ends at the start
its like one of those mystery movies
and what i want to try is " fix it "
and see how it feels
i did it with freemake video the movies felt a lot more "wow"
but ac3 felts lacking not because it had low kbps or what ever it was because if i bitstream trueHD to my yamaha 671 receiver ,the reciever "knows" what to do everything sounds a thousand times better basically surround is perfected

thank you for your time and help


peace