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    "Dimmer" as in not shiny or glowy?, hahaha, it has a matte screen.

    "Calibrated to a standard" as in the sRGB standard. That's the target standard now. I don't play to the cheap seats any more (NTSC, interlace, pulldown, grammas telly, etc.)
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    I was referring to luma output, not screen coating.

    Depends on your lifestyle, budwzr. What kind of video editing is your monitor set up for? It can't be DVD (video DVD output for SD, HD and BluRay are all rooted in NTSC or PAL, so I wouldn't consider any of them cheap). If you're working video for internet or purely PC use, you'd go sRGB non-interlaced all the way. Games are pure sRGB, aren't they?.
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    Those jumbo stadium displays are true LED monitors. Those use a multi-color LED per pixel
    That's really more of an evolution of a JumboTron, though, isn't it?
    I guess we could refer to it as a LED monitor.

    Come to think of it, I guess we could have "true" LED displays, but that would be pretty costly.
    Certainly not the same price range of LED-lit LCD system.
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    No, I don't use any kind of disc or CRT type output any more. It doesn't make sense to produce or store something based on backward compatibility with analog devices that rely on whirling discs.

    When they made the switch to DTV, I cut ties to the past. My media gets viewed more than ever now via portable devices and USB stick. Nobody I know wants a DVD anymore.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf View Post
    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    Those jumbo stadium displays are true LED monitors. Those use a multi-color LED per pixel
    That's really more of an evolution of a JumboTron, though, isn't it?
    I guess we could refer to it as a LED monitor.

    Come to think of it, I guess we could have "true" LED displays, but that would be pretty costly.
    Certainly not the same price range of LED-lit LCD system.
    Jumbotron had a CRT per pixel

    Large displays have come a long way.
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    Originally Posted by budwzr View Post
    No, I don't use any kind of disc or CRT type output any more. It doesn't make sense to produce or store something based on backward compatibility with analog devices that rely on whirling discs.

    When they made the switch to DTV, I cut ties to the past. My media gets viewed more than ever now via portable devices and USB stick. Nobody I know wants a DVD anymore.
    Mm, well I think you might have misunderstood what I meant by "analog". But that's off-topic anyway. That portable display device, BTW, has an analog backlight in it, an analog speaker driver, and some Digital to Analog Converters (DACs) so your analog eyes and analog ears can see and hear it. I'm glad digital video/audio is out there, it's a big improvement in many ways. But analog isn't quite dead yet.

    But now I'm way off-topic! . Gotta stop doin' that.
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    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Originally Posted by budwzr View Post
    No, I don't use any kind of disc or CRT type output any more. It doesn't make sense to produce or store something based on backward compatibility with analog devices that rely on whirling discs.

    When they made the switch to DTV, I cut ties to the past. My media gets viewed more than ever now via portable devices and USB stick. Nobody I know wants a DVD anymore.
    Mm, well I think you might have misunderstood what I meant by "analog". But that's off-topic anyway. That portable display device, BTW, has an analog backlight in it, an analog speaker driver, and some Digital to Analog Converters (DACs) so your analog eyes and analog ears can see and hear it. I'm glad digital video/audio is out there, it's a big improbement in many ways. But analog isn't quite dead yet.

    But now I'm way off-topic! . Gotta stop doin' that.
    Hahaha, I know your point, my watch is analog too, and I hate the digital ones.
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    When picture quality realy matters I'd stick with CRT. My old EIZO T68 is ISF calibrated and produces a great picture. Several expensive flatscreen monitors I've seen couldn't compete. It's a killing job to get the geometrics right though. But when it's adjusted right, it's heaven. Old high-end CRT's made by eg. EIZO or LaCie sometimes can be bought rather cheaply if you do a good search. Worth the money, my guess. Calibration will cost more often. Beware that these old monitors don't have digital input. At least, mine doesn't.

    One also should be aware in what surround-light conditions you are watching/editing your video. I think you want the room rather dark. My experience is that when you go adjusting gammacurves / /gamuth and such, the output on your monitor will be ok, but when you go watch on your tv / plasma / projector the outcome can rather have a different effect. Given that you have a decent videoset.

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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    Jumbotron had a CRT per pixel
    You have GOT to be joking

    Oh. You're not.

    Any idea on what a 'flood-gate CRT' is?
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    Originally Posted by intracube View Post
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    Jumbotron had a CRT per pixel
    You have GOT to be joking

    Oh. You're not.

    Any idea on what a 'flood-gate CRT' is?
    Had to look it up. In this case, Google couldn't find it but Bing did .

    This patent
    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3657595.pdf shows a circuit to control the saturation of a CRT using power switching rather than a typical control grid in the electron gun.
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    Found this interesting page:
    http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/tubepage.php?item=9&user=0

    I didn't realize how different these CRTs were to regular ones. No need for a focused beam, so no complex focusing/defection coils or circuitry, etc.

    Makes sense now.

    These screens must have monster power plugs...
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    Originally Posted by intracube View Post
    Found this interesting page:
    http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/tubepage.php?item=9&user=0

    I didn't realize how different these CRTs were to regular ones. No need for a focused beam, so no complex focusing/defection coils or circuitry, etc.

    Makes sense now.

    These screens must have monster power plugs...
    Great link. Lots of good old stuff.

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