trouble playing this file in WMP in Win XP sp3

[charlieship]

Win XP Sp3, and WMP 9.00.4507

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zjv04g

This file doesn't play the video part but does play in VLC.

Is it a codec issue? It says error downloading codec in the status bar.

I tried changing the codec
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cgnurr

but still plays video portion fine in VLC but fails video portion in WMP 9.00.4507 in Win XP sp3

i'd like to convert the file so it works in that WMP.

[guns1inger]

I am not going to down load the video in question, but in general you should start by opening the file in mediainfo to find out what audio and video codecs have been used to compress the file, then install the appropriate codecs so WMP can play it. FFDShow will allow WMP to play most formats without too much messing around, so I would start there before re-encoding the file.

[Chris K]

It's h264 with mp3. Installing FFdshow indeed will do.

[charlieship]

will do but why didn't my conversion work, this is the second file(acdoesnt2.avi), not the H264 one(acdoesnt.avi). acdoesnt2 is converted to mp3 and mpeg2 but has the same issue, why would that be? that one is not H264.


C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos>mediainfo acdoesnt2.
General
Complete name : acdoesnt2.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 289 KiB
Duration : 5s 42ms
Overall bit rate : 470 Kbps
Writing application : Lavf53.3.0

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
Codec ID : mpg2
Codec ID/Info : (MPEG-1/2) FFmpeg
Codec ID/Hint : Ffmpeg
Duration : 5s 38ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 377 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.164
Stream size : 232 KiB (80%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Mode extension : MS Stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 5s 42ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 39.4 KiB (14%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 26 ms (0.78 video frame)

[guns1inger]

mpeg2 in an AVI container is unusual and not usually supported. Add to that the fact that XP doesn't have native mpeg-2 support and you have your answer. Your file is an abomination.

Mpeg-1 will play without help in XP, as will WMV format files (can be dependent on which version of WMP you are using. Otherwise you need to install codecs.

[charlieship]

actest1.avi plays with jumbled video in WMP
I used this line to convert it (it was mpeg2 )
c:\>ffmpeg -i acdoesnt.avi -acodec libmp3lame -vcodec mpeg1video actest1.avi

actest1.wmv doesn't play in WMP. (i've put the mediainfo output for that file in italics,). WMP says it's either damaged or corrupt.
I just used this line to convert it
c:\>ffmpeg -i acdoesnt.avi -acodec libmp3lame -vcodec mpeg1video actest1.wmv




C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos>mediainfo actest1.avi
General
Complete name : actest1.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.27 MiB
Duration : 31s 112ms
Overall bit rate : 343 Kbps
Writing application : Lavf53.3.0

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 1
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Codec ID : mpg1
Codec ID/Info : (MPEG-1/2) FFmpeg
Codec ID/Hint : Ffmpeg
Duration : 31s 31ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 264 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.115
Stream size : 1 000 KiB (77%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Mode extension : MS Stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 31s 112ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 243 KiB (19%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 26 ms (0.78 video frame)


C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos>



C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos>mediainfo actest1.wmv
General
Complete name : actest1.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 1.27 MiB
Duration : 31s 112ms
Overall bit rate : 343 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 264 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00.000
WM/EncodingSettings : Lavf53.3.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Codec ID : mpg1
Codec ID/Info : (MPEG-1/2) FFmpeg
Codec ID/Hint : Ffmpeg
Description of the codec : mpeg1video
Duration : 31s 98ms
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.111
Stream size : 972 KiB (75%)

Audio
ID : 2
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Mode extension : MS Stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Description of the codec : libmp3lame
Duration : 31s 111ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : bit0
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 243 KiB (19%)


C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\My Videos>

[guns1inger]

Either install FFDShow, or start out with a decent ffmpeg front-end until you find a combination that works. Frankly, I rate WMP as one of the worst players out there. I prefer Media Player Classic Home Cinema or VLC instead. Not just for the codec support, but also subtitles and multiple audio tracks.

[charlieship]

Either install FFDShow, or start out with a decent ffmpeg front-end until you find a combination that works. Frankly, I rate WMP as one of the worst players out there. I prefer Media Player Classic Home Cinema or VLC instead. Not just for the codec support, but also subtitles and multiple audio tracks.

I'd like others with win xp sp3 to be able to view the video in WMP. So i'm looking to convert the video so it plays in WMP on xp sp3.

also i'd like to test ffdshow just to see if it makes that WMP play it but i'd like it to be reversible, is that possible? how would I undo? 'cos it's beneficial for me to have this WMP that doesn't play incase others wanting to view the file have the issue, I want to be able to convert the file so it plays for them, without them having to download ffdshow.

[Chris K]

mp3 audio is also uncommon for mpeg1video. Use mp2. For mpeg2video. mp2 or ac3.

Why not convert to mpg container.

c:\>ffmpeg -i acdoesnt.avi -acodec mp2 -vcodec mpeg1video actest1.mpg

[charlieship]

mp3 audio is also uncommon for mpeg1video. Use mp2. For mpeg2video. mp2 or ac3.

Why not convert to mpg container.

c:\>ffmpeg -i acdoesnt.avi -acodec mp2 -vcodec mpeg1video actest1.mpg

thanks that conversion worked it plays. Is there a list of container types and the common codecs associated with them?
So, for .avi and for .mp4 .wmv for example. I notice mpg is a bit big too..

and will ffdshow allow me to view the codecs WMP has installed, and thus add/remove the use of a codec, so as to have more control and see what's causing things to work / not work(useful for the future)?

[Chris K]

Is there a list of container types and the common codecs associated with them?
So, for .avi and for .mp4 .wmv for example. I notice mpg is a bit big too..

With your requirements to play by others actually only mpeg1video/mp2 in mpg and wmv1/wmav1 in wmv container.

will ffdshow allow me to view the codecs WMP has installed, and thus add/remove the use of a codec, so as to have more control and see what's causing things to work / not work(useful for the future)?

You can at anytime enable/disable its supported codecs at list on its configuration windows (for audio and video).

[charlieship]

Is there a list of container types and the common codecs associated with them?
So, for .avi and for .mp4 .wmv for example. I notice mpg is a bit big too..

With your requirements to play by others actually only mpeg1video/mp2 in mpg and wmv1/wmav1 in wmv container.

will ffdshow allow me to view the codecs WMP has installed, and thus add/remove the use of a codec, so as to have more control and see what's causing things to work / not work(useful for the future)?

You can at anytime enable/disable its supported codecs at list on its configuration windows (for audio and video).

i'm hoping to find some kind of list.. and for example..

so, fine MPG container MPEG1 video codec MP2 audio codec

but for MPEG2 video, which XP doesn't natively support..(though I Have a win xp sp2 system that plays it, so maybe that one got some additional codec somewhere down the line for MPEG2 support)..

But, for MPG container and MPEG2 video, which Audio do I use- MP2 or MP3?

For MP4 container, which video and audio codec ?

and What Audio with WMV?
thanks

[Chris K]

To find out which codecs are installed you could try DirectShow Filter Manager.
There are others too. FFdshow doesn't have a option to show these.

i'm hoping to find some kind of list.. and for example..

so, fine MPG container MPEG1 video codec MP2 audio codec

but for MPEG2 video, which XP doesn't natively support..(though I Have a win xp sp2 system that plays it, so maybe that one got some additional codec somewhere down the line for MPEG2 support)..

But, for MPG container and MPEG2 video, which Audio do I use- MP2 or MP3?

I don't know of a list. mpeg2video supports mp2 and ac3.

For MP4 container, which video and audio codec ?

mpeg4, x264 with aac audio.

and What Audio with WMV?

wmav1 audio. Don't know if XP natively supports wmav2?

[charlieship]

Thanks