Are these DVD's pirated?

[DB83]

I have no reason to take this personally. I made the comment for the forum as a whole.

But you just can not come on here and make such comments and feel justified to do so. I read the entire topic and I do not see a single post where someone is justifying, or supporting, piracy but simply an acknowledgemnt that it exists.

So why not just finish this one off by sharing your new found wisdom for the benefit of anyone that comes across this topic and not leave it in limbo.

[DARKasstheRAIN]

If I receive spurious comments (and I got plenty), I'll make spurious comments in return. If you think that requires some sort of seniority, you have a strange way of thinking.

There was nothing in my initial question that warranted some of the condescending replies I got and the direction this thread has taken. I feel no obligation to tell you my final decision about the DVDs. If you wanted to benefit people who came across this topic, it was up to all of you to give quality responses. I felt that some of them were useful. If you feel otherwise, I don't see how it's down to me to make up for it. I came here to seek knowledge, not to give it. I had thought that that was the point of a help forum.

You can consider the thread closed, if you like. It's gone places I never intended it to and it's of no further use to me. If it's existence is such a detriment to these forums you can get a moderator to lock it delete it or whatever you like. I'd do it myself if I were able.

I maintain that I did get one bit of advice that proved useful (to open the disc in image burn), so I don't count the whole thing a loss.

For the record, I never meant to say that the primary type of people on this forum were bootleggers, if that's what upset you. I just meant that a forum that offers advice on the making of amature videos and DVDs (if that's the purpose or one of the purposes of the forum) might be something that bootleggers would have use for. The comment was made half in jest anyway. You've read too much into it.

[AlanHK]

it was up to all of you to give quality responses. I felt that some of them were useful. If you feel otherwise, I don't see how it's down to me to make up for it. I came here to seek knowledge, not to give it. I had thought that that was the point of a help forum.

We failed to give the "quality responses" it was our duty to provide you. So sorry. Please accept a full refund of your fee.

[DARKasstheRAIN]

I if you choose to acknowledge only the parts of my posts that you feel like, you just go ahead.

Goodbye, I'm quite tired of talking to you all. No sense in my saying thank you for your help again as that will be the bit of the post that you ignore.

[AlanHK]

I if you choose to acknowledge only the parts of my posts that you feel like, you just go ahead.

Goodbye, I'm quite tired of talking to you all. No sense in my saying thank you for your help again as that will be the bit of the post that you ignore.

Yeah, sorry it was the incredibly rude and arrogant part that got my attention. Made it hard to focus on the simply foolish bits.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[turk690]

So, were the wretched DVDs legit or not? In relation to this, I'm about to purchase a 1991 movie from amazon, "Meeting Venus". Amazon says this DVD is "manufactured on demand", on DVD-R, having been authorized by the copyright holders, etc. I'm curious: where did the master files come from? Was it properly telecine'd to a digital master? Did it come from the (gasp!) original VHS release? Where? It's NOT cheap ($27), so I'd like to know more. Amazon says it is made by CreateSpace, but that's it. Obviously it's not pirated, eh?

[usually_quiet]

So, were the wretched DVDs legit or not? In relation to this, I'm about to purchase a 1991 movie from amazon, "Meeting Venus". Amazon says this DVD is "manufactured on demand", on DVD-R, having been authorized by the copyright holders, etc. I'm curious: where did the master files come from? Was it properly telecine'd to a digital master? Did it come from the (gasp!) original VHS release? Where? It's NOT cheap ($27), so I'd like to know more. Amazon says it is made by CreateSpace, but that's it. Obviously it's not pirated, eh?

Your movie is from the Warner Brothers Archive Collection, and DVDs for this group of films and TV series are burned to order instead of pressed because the demand for them is too small to justify the costs associated with a normal production run.

The WBshop.com says this about your movie:

Important Note: This film has been manufactured from the best-quality video master currently available and has not been remastered or restored specifically for this DVD and Digital Download release.

According to Google, it is possible to purchase them online from other major retailers in addition to Amazon, as well as directly from the wbshop.com, if you are in the USA. I guess Warner Brothers has a special arrangement with Amazon to use an alternate manufacturer.

[Chipmunk]

I wanted to say that I came across this forum through this thread. I had bought several DVDs over a few years off of Amazon (not through market place sellers), and just learned about the piracy problem on Amazon. I wanted to check to make sure my DVDs were all legitimate. Mine all are, but in my online search, I came across people saying that there were excellent fakes out there.

To anyone who has a similar question, the box set that the OP asked about is definitely a fake -- a well done one -- but still a fake. The real discs do not say "Doctor Who" on the bottom of them. Instead, they have the similar coding to all other Doctor Who discs.

For more information about this, go to youtube and look up Boot Leg Doctor Who Series 3 DVD - ''Kast of the Time Loros'', and "Doctor Who Series 4 Bootleg Set - Detailed info/evidence for PayPal Claim," and Zaranyzerak Gets RIPPED OFF Buying New Who .

These videos (and others like it) should help anyone who wants to know whether or not their Doctor Who DVDs are legitimate.

[usually_quiet]

This forum does not close old threads but expects members to know that as a general rule, they should let the dead stay buried. If you keep digging up old dead threads here to update them or add your 2 cents to a discussion that ended long ago, expect hear from a moderator.

[bendixG15]

Next guy who digs up an old thread is going to get his taxes audited for the past ten years ..... no matter where he lives.

[davejavu]

But I guess that's what I get for asking about this on a site that's primary purpose seems to be to teach people how to rip and burn DVDs. I suppose one can't expect much helpfulness when seeking council on the bootleggers home turf, there's always the danger of unwittingly coming face to face with the enemy and his allies.

For the record, I never meant to say that the primary type of people on this forum were bootleggers, if that's what upset you. I just meant that a forum that offers advice on the making of amature videos and DVDs (if that's the purpose or one of the purposes of the forum) might be something that bootleggers would have use for. The comment was made half in jest anyway. You've read too much into it.

It seems pretty clear from your original comment exactly what you were saying without us having to ready anything into it. I didn't detect much humour the first time I read it, and still can't.

[Chipmunk]

This forum does not close old threads but expects members to know that as a general rule, they should let the dead stay buried. If you keep digging up old dead threads here to update them or add your 2 cents to a discussion that ended long ago, expect hear from a moderator.

I didn't respond to this to start trouble. I responded to it because it was one of the only forum posts I could find anywhere online that talked about the possibility of Doctor Who bootlegs. My intention was to let anyone else who happens to be interested in the topic know that, yes, there are bootlegs of Doctor Who, and how to tell if yours is a legitimate DVD.

[usually_quiet]

This forum does not close old threads but expects members to know that as a general rule, they should let the dead stay buried. If you keep digging up old dead threads here to update them or add your 2 cents to a discussion that ended long ago, expect hear from a moderator.

I didn't respond to this to start trouble. I responded to it because it was one of the only forum posts I could find anywhere online that talked about the possibility of Doctor Who bootlegs. My intention was to let anyone else who happens to be interested in the topic know that, yes, there are bootlegs of Doctor Who, and how to tell if yours is a legitimate DVD.

You could have chosen to create a new thread in the same forum to share the same information. It generally works out better than tacking something onto the end of an old thread.

[johns0]

Chipmunk-Please do not dig up old threads,post a new thread instead,this thread is closed.