VFW ffdshow Settings to Edit flv in Vdub

[kaskaï]

Hi,

I just have changed my OS from XP 32 bits to win 7 64 bits, and i'm a bit lost with editing videos in Virtualdub.

I have chosen :
- the 32 bit version of Virtualdub with the following plugins :

• DirectShow
• MPEG-2
• WMV
• FLV
• QuickTime
• FLIC
• AC3

- the 32 bits mega version of K-lite codec pack.
- avisynth 2.6 32 bits

In ffdshow vfw configuration ,I've set the wmv1/7 , 2/8 , 3/9 ,vc-1 to wmv9 instead of disabled.

With this, I can edit :

-the WMV video, I have to select the file first then select the Windows media files from the the dropdown menu
-the mpeg-ts (mpeg2 ?) videos, I first have to write an avs script like this : DirectShowSource("H:\Total Média\****.mpg") and then drag and drop it in Vdub


The third type of videos I need to edit is the flv files. I am really confused between the settings of vfw ffdshow codecs and Win7DSFilterTweaker. I want to change a minimum of parameters to keep the easy way to open my wmv and mpg videos

Here is the mediainfo report :

General
Complete name : F:\Docs Win7\StreamTransport\***********.flv
Format : Flash Video
File size : 621 MiB
Duration : 58mn 27s
Overall bit rate : 1 484 Kbps

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=33
Codec ID : 7
Duration : 58mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Nominal bit rate : 1 350 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.234
Color primaries : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM
Transfer characteristics : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G
Matrix coefficients : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM, IEC 61966-2-4 601

Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 10
Duration : 58mn 27s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy



THX and sorry for my poor english

[Baldrick]

Maybe just install FLV Splitter to begin with.

[kaskaï]

Thanks for helping Baldrick,
I'm not sure, but I think i did install it already. How can i check this ?

[jagabo]

Use the "Files of type" pulldown in VirtualDub's Open Vide File dialog to select "DirectShow input driver". You can also try the "Flash Video files (*.flv)" drier but in my experience it doesn't work with a lot of FLV files.

[kaskaï]

thanks jagabo,

Flv splitter is included in K-lite pack.

Using the "Files of type" pulldown in VirtualDub's Open Vide File dialog to select "DirectShow input driver" will only show avs files. Is that right ?
If yes, you mean that i have to write a script like this : DirectShowSource("H:\Mes documents\****.flv")
If yes, it doesn't work.

I say again that i didn't almost change anything in the settings of vfw ffdshow.

[poisondeathray]

VFW system is not used unless video is AVI wrapped (you have an FLV, not AVI)

You need FLV splitter and h.264/avc enabled in the ffdshow directshow configuration (not VFW), in order for directshow driver, or .avs using directshowsource() to work

If neither work, try ffms2 in avisynth
http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegsource/

FFMpegSource2("video.flv", atrack=-1)

[kaskaï]

Thanks poisondeathray,

I have enabled h.264/avc in ffdshow.

I'm not sure how to interpret your sentence concerning flv splitter:
- do have i to enable it in ffdshow directshow configuration ? i.e wich exact line in codec list should i enable ?
- or do i simply need flv splitter (to install) (already done)

Anyway i have this bad result :
"something appears to be stuck while trying to stop ((thread deadlock). abort & exit pgm ?"
I was trying to open the vid, not to stop it

Then, I have tried with ffms2 in avisynth and it works well.

Is there a way to save all this ffdshow settings ? Just in case.

[DarrellS]

In ffdshow VFW settings...

H264/AVC .....ffmpeg-mt ....H264,AVC1,X264,VSSH
FVFW,FFDS ....libavcodec .. ffdshow ffvfw internal FOURCCs
FLV1 .........libavcodec .. Flash Video (FLV1)
Theora ...... libavcodec ...Theora Video (THEO)
VP3 ..........libavcodec .. VP3 Video (VP31)
VP5 ..........libavcodec .. VP5 Video (VP51)
VP6 ..........libavcodec ...VP6 Video (VP60,VP61,VP62)
VP6F .........libavcodec ...Flash Video (VP6F,FLV4,VP6A)
VP8 ..........libavcodec ...VP8 Video (VP80)
WMV1/7 ...... wmv9 .........Windows Media Video 7 (WMV1)
WMV2/8 ...... wmv9 .........Windows Media Video 8 (WMV2)
WMV3/9 ...... wmv9 .........Windows Media Video 9 Simple
VC-1 .........libavcodec .. Windows Media Video 9 Advanced
FFV1 .........libavcodec .. FFV1 Codec for libavcodec (FFV1)
Avisynth .....Avisynth .....AVIS (Avisynth AVI files)

[kaskaï]

Hi,

thanks Darrells for the settings,

Yesterday, with your advices, I was confident in copping with most of videos format i'm usually dealing with.
However, something's going wrong with my wmv videos.

With this, I can edit :

-the WMV video, I have to select the file first then select the Windows media files from the the dropdown menu

In fact, I just checked editing this video in Vdub, by moving the button along the timeline; this was perfectly working. But I didn't try to simply play the video in Virtualdub. Now, I get this message : No audio decompressor could be found to decompress the audio.
I have no problem to play this video with MPCHC.

Here is the mediainfo report :

General
Complete name : H:\Net Transport\270950_16030_1306853753.AsileKossovars.wmv
Format : Windows Media
File size : 4.75 MiB
Duration : 1mn 27s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 456 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 648 Kbps
Movie name : 3105 DEMANDE D ASILE KOSOVARS-mix
Performer : France 3 Caen
Encoded date : UTC 2011-05-31 20:40:54.413
Copyright : France 3

Video #1
ID : 2
Format : VC-1
Format profile : MP
Codec ID : WMV3
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
Duration : 1mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 377 Kbps
Width : 384 pixels
Height : 216 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.182
Stream size : 3.92 MiB (83%)

Video #2
ID : 3
Format : VC-1
Format profile : MP
Codec ID : WMV3
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
Duration : 1mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 177 Kbps
Width : 384 pixels
Height : 216 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085
Stream size : 1.84 MiB (39%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : WMA
Format version : Version 2
Codec ID : 161
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
Duration : 1mn 27s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 682 KiB (14%)

[jagabo]

https://www.videohelp.com/tools/WMV9_VCM

[poisondeathray]

Now, I get this message : No audio decompressor could be found to decompress the audio.

for the wma v2 audio in vdub, you need this
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/DivX_WMA_Audio

[JimmyS]

As far as the .flv files go, I have had pretty good success getting that type of file to open in VDub by first opening the .flv in Avidemux and copying the video and audio into an mp4 container. Then in VDub make sure the Quicktime plugin is present, then edit the Quicktime.ini file so that mode=2.

Qudos to the person who presented that mode setting for the Quicktime plugin in another post a while back. It also allows Zi8 files to open directly in VDub.

[jagabo]

Avoid Quicktime at all costs. It is totally screwed up.

[JimmyS]

Avoid Quicktime at all costs. It is totally screwed up.

I assume you are refering to Apples Quicktime app., in which case I totally agree. Just for clarity, I'm refering to the Virtualdub Quicktime/MPEG-4 plugin, available here:

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=12664

[jagabo]

Avoid Quicktime at all costs. It is totally screwed up.

I assume you are refering to Apples Quicktime app., in which case I totally agree. Just for clarity, I'm refering to the Virtualdub Quicktime/MPEG-4 plugin

Yes I'm referring to Apple's Quicktime package (codecs and player) or Quicktime alternative (which is just parts of Apple's package, repackaged).

[kaskaï]

Thanks you for all your answers,

I installed DivX_WMA_Audio and it works perfectly in Vdub.
However MPCHC cannot render properly some of the pins (missings codecs). VLC plays this vid with a very poor quality of sound.

I will try to avoid avidemux, if possible to do all i need in the same program (Vdub). Thx


EDIT : YEEEEES, Finaly, i tried a second time to compress the audio with AC3-ACM instead of MPEG-layer 3 and MPCHC managed to play with success the video.