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I've been an amateur for some time in video editing, but recently met a few people who had a project for some company. I joined them and helped in shooting and editing on Sony Vegas. The whole film is 41 minutes but we spent a month till it was finished. Everyone seems to be happy but i was thinking of some professional advice.. I will post this trailer and if anyone can tell me how it is.
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Last edited by Viacon; 9th Aug 2011 at 20:53.
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The rule is not to exceed 8 seconds per shot unless something is going on. Waves crashing on a beach don't count. Watch any TV show. You'll see that shots rarely go on more than 8 seconds.
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It's not a TV show, you know... It's a lounge video, not a basketball game
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How are we supposed to know which beach we are looking at?
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The whole idea is: It's not the news, its not TV nor commercial, not talk show. Its pure nature with its beauty and meant for relaxing.. Imagine you have a nice home theater with 5.1 sound system. You will really enjoy it as a background to your dinner or any conversation. Put it to play at hospitals, in waiting rooms...
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The average attention span of a modern human is about 8 seconds, anything more, and the majority of minds wander, which this may be the desired result. And so, I can understand this, having said that, this will be a nice alternative to all the looping yule log fire videos.
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Generally speaking, I think it's a great success. Someone actually used a tripod? Unbelievable...
These are what I would call easy shots...no panning or tilting but effective never-the-less.
The wonderful thing about film is it's power of illusion. You're selling beaches so you want the illusion that the beach is all theirs to enjoy. A few shots had a houses (hotels?) in them which ruins the landscape and, to me, doesn't fit. A lot of people enjoy a beach sunrise/sunset so the film would benefit from a long slow cross-fade to a red sunset...perhaps twice or thrice. This will make the shots contrast between blue and red and adds more stunning beauty. You may want to also add moon shots at night. How romantic...
Audio with native birds was probably an accident yet appropriate and adds tranquility. Some shots remind me of Costa Rica (rich coast)...
I think it's working as I wanted to go back to Hawaii while watching it.
Don't follow anything American TV is doing because it's dying. They're busy shooting themselves in the foot and driving tons of people to the internet. More people are online for their entertainment now than watching TV in the States.
PS - It's best to fill out your comp/cam specs in your profile for future referenceLast edited by zoobie; 20th Apr 2011 at 20:31.
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Here is a nice post.. It's exactly what we were planning to do in our future projects.Originally Posted by zoobie
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And for anyone after GenX it's 1/4 second.Originally Posted by sum_guy
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Viacon, can you tell us about the setup..the types of video cameras, mikes, etc?
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Yes sure.Originally Posted by TreeTops
Tripod mounted
Sony HDR CX550 with circular polarizing filter. Two Audio-Technica Stereo Phantom microphones AT8022 X/Y pointed in opposite derections. The mixer was simple, i don't remember the specs...
Editing:
Sony Vegas Pro 10
And ofcourse my new sweet baby-monster machine to render it all: Asus G73Sw powered with i7-2720QM (2.20GHz-3.30Turbo), 16GB RAM, DDR3 1600 MHz
This is not a fancy pro camera and AVCHD is not a desired codec but....... The original is quite good (you watched the worst youtube FLV ) -
I've got a 3-4 more shots but they're complicated and you've probably got enough. It looks like you are more of a computer builder
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I was wondering if anyone wanted to test these videos. They are under 4GB and can be burned on BD5. Please feel free to download them and use on your personal Blu-ray players. I would be glad to hear what you think... Here is the site: http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/
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Just curious? Whats the point of all this? Hobby?
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I still consider it hobby for myself, yes ))) But this LoungeV thing has other ideas, i am just helping around without being paid, and nobody is paid there...
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I tried downloading both of the zip file but they were both corrupt.
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We have tested all of them and they worked well. "both" Are you talking about 30 min films? I presume you couldn't play them, right? The file folder has a Blu-ray structure, and the video files are m2ts. Please let me know...Originally Posted by jagabo
Last edited by Viacon; 29th May 2011 at 09:22.
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I downloaded these two files:
http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/beachlounge/BDMV.zip
http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/magicriver/test/BDMV.zip
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It is a strange thing indeed. The first one is almost 4GB in size, how long did it take you to download? The second one, i just tested again and it worked just fine...Originally Posted by jagabo
Thank you for the report and i will try to see what might had gone wrong, but most likely its on your end, what do you think?Last edited by Viacon; 29th May 2011 at 13:00.
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They took about an hour each.
Oh wait, my second link is wrong. I just downloaded that small file and there was no problem. Both files I originally downloaded were about 4 GB.
These are the two files I downloaded last night:
http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/magicriver/BDMV.zip
http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/beachlounge/BDMV.zip
I'll try again...Last edited by jagabo; 29th May 2011 at 09:43.
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Let me just try to figure it out, your report is priceless if there is an issue. All of the files were testdriven on multiple computers and downloaded from different locations.Originally Posted by jagabo
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I'm downloading one of the files again (firefox 5.0 beta, XP Pro 32 bit). I'll let you know exactly what the error message is but it was something like "Corrupt file or only one part of a multipart archive". Windows' built in ZIP utility didn't give any error messages but didn't extract anything either.
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Thank you Jagabo, i hope they work fine this time. Downloaded Zip files of big sizes misbehave sometimes and need repair.
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After downloading one of the files again I got the same error message from WinRAR:
And I had the same problem with Windows XP's (XP Pro, SP3) built in Zip handling (only a few empty folders were created when extracting the archive). I just tried using 7-zip -- it reported no problems when testing the archvive and appears to have extracted the BDMV folder properly. I can view the M2TS file now.
The version of WinRAR I have is very old (2002) so it's not surprising that it has problems. But the incompatibility with XP's built in ZIP handler isn't good (I tried two computers running XP and got the same result). I also tested Win7's built in ZIP handler and the archive works fine with that. -
Jagabo, thank you so much for the in-depth report. 7-zip is good with large files as it repairs them. We will look into this incompatibility issue with XP built-in zipper but i know it does have limits in file size. There was definitely not enough testing performed and apparently the files sitting on the server have some faults.
Last edited by Viacon; 29th May 2011 at 13:35.
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Here is what i did to fix this:
Successfully extracted the folders on the server, m2ts file (tried to partially download it) appeared clean and zipped them again also inside the server. I believe this should solve the uploading issues.
Here are the direct paths to m2ts files and they are good to download which means they are clean on the server: right click -->> save as: http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/beachlounge/BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts and http://www.downloadhdvideo.com/images/gallery/videos/magicriver/BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts -
So if I downloaded the ZIP files from the earlier links I'll now get an archive that XP's internal ZIP decompressor can handle?Originally Posted by Viacon
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Frankly speaking we couldn't find anyone using Windows XP, it's strange i know but that is the reality. Basically, if it can handle any large (up to 4BG) zip file, it can handle ours. Its now the matter of XP outdated zipper not our files...
Last edited by Viacon; 30th May 2011 at 12:14.
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But there's no good reason to use zip features that aren't supported by XP. You're screwing a large percentage of your downloaders just to save a tiny bit of upload bandwidth.Originally Posted by Viacon
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You are right about that. But we have to choose between zip and original video files. Its not actually about shrinking the size. Zip file contains folders with Blu-ray structure easy to burn for an outsider. You can not prompt folder download from the server if its not a .zip
If it's m2ts file, we will need to explain how to make BD folders and this becomes too complicated IMO.
I think it will be easier to mention 7-zip if the files fail to extract.Last edited by Viacon; 30th May 2011 at 15:01.
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