Difference between BR-Rebuilder / Ripbot / Handbrake?

[quebert]

I have tried and tried and couldn't get BR-Rebuilder to work on my system, Ripbot did but it took a long time (c2d q6550) like maybe 20 hours for 1 movie. So on a whim I tried Handbrake last night and it took about 8 hours to encode the movie Ripbot took 20 hours to do. I just picked up my BR-Rom last week so I'm new too all this. I gig Google for ripping/encoding tutorials. And every one I found was either using BRR/Ripbot or Blurip. Blurip seemed to be slow, it was getting about 1.8 fps average after about an hour. Right now I'm getting 6.3fps in HB, which is a lot better than Ripbot.

My question is, are there any down sides to using HB over Ripbot? I don't care about saving time if there are serious shortcomings.

[fritzi93]

All the programs you mention use much the same basic "toolkit" of ancillary programs, more particularly X264.exe. So the speed/quality difference is in the specific settings you're using. BDRB requires slightly more care in setting up and likes specific versions of ffdshow, haali, and avisynth.

[RabidDog]

i PRESume there may be settings in Ripbot that would both lower the quality and lower the encoding time. It may be worth increasing the bitrate to compensate for the lowered quality whilst saving 50% or more of the time. With some of these programs going from say "excellent" quality to "insane" quality (fairuse) will increase the encoding time by a factor of 4 with microscopic increases in quality. It might be worth it if you're desperate to get a watchable video in the smallest file size possible or have an overclocked I970 begging for hard slog, but for you or me? "good enough" quality.

[quebert]

Thanks for the replies Fritzi93 & RabidDog, apparently I didn't have Handbrake configured properly. I re-ran it and set up a BR profile again and it jumped from about 7.5 hours to almost 30. Within reason I'm not really about saving space, a 9 gig 1080p rip's fine to me. Since HB's no faster when I ran it a 2nd time, I guess my only option for shorter encoding time is to get a new CPU, a i5 2600k would be a ton faster than my 4 year old C2D.

to Fritzi93, I ran the inspector that came with BRB and it said all the files it needed were ok. Just to be sure I downloaded the exact versions of them that the author suggested. Still didn't work, not sure BRB is any better than the other programs I've tried, but I have heard it's faster. But, if it's using the same x286 encoder I don't see how that's possible.

[fritzi93]

@RabidDog: That's how I look at it. If one doesn't insist on re-encoding to, say, BD5 size or smaller, the highest quality settings offer little advantage. BD9 at "Good" (fastest) setting is hard to distinguish from the original, for most movies. If one re-encodes to BD25, there is the "HighSpeed BD25" option, which is very fast indeed.

BTW, the correct versions of ffdshow, haali, and avisynth for use with BDRB are available on this page:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

[EDIT] Guess we cross-posted. I've only used HandBrake a couple of times and didn't much like it, but that's just personal preference, nothing wrong with it. So I can't advise you on settings. As to BDRB, if inspect.exe says you're okay and BDRB isn't working right, then all I can say is you must be missing a step somewhere, probably something simple. Go through this guide step-by-step:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/305868-The-Complete-Guide-To-Making-Blu-Ray-Backups...BD5-Backups%29

BTW, I do BD9 backups overnight on my dual-core HTPC with BDRB at fastest ("Good") setting, no problem. Good luck.