HandBrake Video Jitters During Panning Scenes

[ejai]

I have been using Handbrake for over a month now and I noticed that most video scenes that have slow pans in them show a motion jitter. I've noticed that several sites in the web have people who have the same issue.

I've used other encoders such as Ripbot264, AVCHDCoder, Tmpgenc and Staxrip to name a few and none have shown the same problem that appears in the Handbrake encoded files. I've tried all sorts of settings in the program and adjusting the FPS options with still little to no change.

I have come to the conclusion the problem is with Handbrake and I was wondering if anyone has found a solution. I prefer to use Handbrake because I like it's quality better than the others. I am using the mkv setting with the H.264 option for encoding.

My sources are DVD movies.

[manono]

Post a MediaInfo text screen of one of the Handbrake encodes that exhibits the problem. Even better would be a short 5-10 second piece of a panning scene.

[ejai]

[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Ernest/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Ernest/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png[/IMG]General
Complete name : D:\Temp\Test Video-1.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 94.3 MiB
Duration : 3mn 42s
Overall bit rate : 3 560 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.5
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.4.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.0
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 3mn 41s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 112
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.40:0.10 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=300 / keyint_min=29 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 3mn 42s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 3mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 5.08 MiB (5%)

[manono]

Try going through it frame-by-frame. Is there a duplicate frame every fifth frame? Movies are 23.976fps and your MediaInfo post shows it to be 29.97fps. That could easily explain the jerky playback. I'm no fan of Handbrake, but in this case, without a whole lot to go on, I'd say it's you that messed up. Then again, you posted for something that's three minutes forty-two seconds long and you said all your sources are DVD movies.

Have you tried either XviD4PSP or XMediaRecode?

[ejai]

The original video is over an hour in it's entirety. I choose a small section to post. It cannot be me if the other programs listed above showed no traces of jitter. I only prefer to use Handbrake, if possible to me it had the best quality over the other encoders. Yes I have used Xvid4psp and found it to be extremely slow. The other encoder you named I haven't tried.... yet, but I will.

[manono]

It cannot be me if the other programs listed above showed no traces of jitter.

Of course it can be you. Do you have any of the videos the other programs produced? Are they 23.976fps (check in MediaInfo)? Did you try what I suggested - advancing a frame at a time in the handbrake one?

[ejai]

If the other encoders are creating a file with no jitter and Handbrake does then the issue is with the encoder. I didn't create the file, I'm just using this software as is to encode it. All I want to know is if there is a setting I could use to make the jitter less visible.

[manono]

If the other encoders are creating a file with no jitter and Handbrake does then the issue is with the encoder.

Don't be absurd. If you're setting up the encoder incorrectly, then how is it the encoder's fault? But unless and until you answer my previous questions and try my suggestions, I have no further interest. I have better things to do than argue with you. If you know all the answers already, why are you here asking for help? My guess (with no help from you) is that you simply have to apply Handbrake's Detelecine filter.

[ejai]

First of all I did not change any of the presets, so it can't be me. I did try your suggestions along with posting the script you asked me to do. I did get dome suggestions from people on a few other sites that helped a bit. After a few test it seems to be the actual movie file that is the problem. No thanks to you. I do appreciate your attempt to help.

[poisondeathray]

First of all I did not change any of the presets, so it can't be me. I did try your suggestions along with posting the script you asked me to do. I did get dome suggestions from people on a few other sites that helped a bit. After a few test it seems to be the actual movie file that is the problem. No thanks to you. I do appreciate your attempt to help.

ejai - the encoder portion of the GUI only encodes.

Handbrake, xvid4psp, ripbot - they are all based on the same encoder - x264 encoder

the difference is in the preprocessing ; this is why manono asked you to post a sample of the original, with a panning scene

handbrake is preprocessing it differently than ripbot, staxrip, etc....

if the other encoders produced "good" output without the "jitters" , then the problem cannot be the actual movie file

[ejai]

First of all I did not change any of the presets, so it can't be me. I did try your suggestions along with posting the script you asked me to do. I did get dome suggestions from people on a few other sites that helped a bit. After a few test it seems to be the actual movie file that is the problem. No thanks to you. I do appreciate your attempt to help.

ejai - the encoder portion of the GUI only encodes.

Handbrake, xvid4psp, ripbot - they are all based on the same encoder - x264 encoder

the difference is in the preprocessing ; this is why manono asked you to post a sample of the original, with a panning scene

handbrake is preprocessing it differently than ripbot, staxrip, etc....

if the other encoders produced "good" output without the "jitters" , then the problem cannot be the actual movie file

I understand poisondeathray, but I also noticed that each encoder may have for example: a blu-ray preset, yet the final video clips may look different depending on the settings that the author felt worked best for that preset.

The setting I am using for conversion from DVD quality to MKV H.264 high qualilty looks different on most of the programs listed. The reason I felt the need to use Handbrake is because I like the fact that the detail in the video is sharp and not blurred out. I noticed in Staxrip that the Handbrake file shows the actual lines in the house furniture whereas Staxrip blurred them out.

I tried to copy the Handbrake settings as best as I could to Staxrip but was unable to get the same results.

What I was looking for was information on whether there is a way to curve the jitter. I did some experimenting with the settings and was able to get it down to where you can barely see any jitter at all.