Blu-ray with menu does not play on DVD+R, but does on BDRE

[sosotiit]

I am at a lost at this point, I eliminated most of the cause I know. I have fairly good experience with DVD, but new to blu-ray.

With BD-Rebuilder (and the recommended version of Haali, ffdshow, avisynth) I reduce a Bluray to dvd-9 and burn it to a DVD+R DL then my LG BD555 does not accept the disk. But if I burn the same folders (BDMV and certificate) to a BD-RE is works fine. If I reduce to DVD-5, same results does not work on DVD but does on Blu-Ray.
Now if I do the same but select movies only, then it works fine with DVD+R as well as BD_RE. Or if I reauthor removing the original menu and replacing them with the menus of multiavchd, then it works fine on all media.

I tried different movies (inception and Never let me go), different burner (Pioneer 216 and a Liteon IHBS112), different type of media (DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL, DVD-R), two different brands of dvd (Verbatim and Ritek), even change booktype (i know... I am an old geek from the early days of X360). So I have more or less exclude the burn part at this point.

my rip seems ok, since a processing of the same folders burn to BD-R is working fine.

What is different with the DVD that prevent the same files with full menu from working?

TIA, _soso

Note: Mybe I should have posted this in Blu-Ray Ripping, plse move if required

[fritzi93]

I did a little poking around, and cannot find anything specific on whether the LG BD555 can play full disc backups to BD5/9. It's a variant of the BD550, and both are essentially the same as the BD530.

However, *none* of LG's past models up to the BD390 could play a full-disc BDRB re-encode to DVDR (BD 5/9). Movie-only, yes. Booktype makes no difference.

The problem is LG's firmware, the bastards. The player is simply not recognizing BD content on a DVDR. It will, however recognize the narrower AVCHD specification (movie-only).

I dunno, you could try getting the latest firmware, maybe you'll get lucky.

[aedipuss]

bdr discs are about the same price as dvd9 discs now so just make bdr backups.

[fritzi93]

You could try patching the index file with AVCHDPatcher before burning to DVDR. Look partway down this page:

https://www.videohelp.com/tools/BD_Rebuilder

Shouldn't work really, but I recall one report that using it made full disc BD 5/9 backups play on a PS3 when it couldn't play them unpatched. Never seen any confirmation though. I think it was v.1.04.

[sosotiit]

Well it does seem to be a known issue ( thread ) whereby transfer to a BD-R/RE most players will accept full menu and movie only, but
when put on DVD then only some player will accept both full menu and movie only, while some other players will only take movie only.

known situation it seems, I will still try the avchdpatcher, just for the fun of it.

_soso

[Megahurts]

The PS3 will not play a BD5/9 with a java menu but will play on BD25. Empty BDJO folder = non java menu.

Sounds like your LG has the same problem.

[fritzi93]

Here's a related thread, although it's not up-to-date:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339&highlight=standalone+results

You'll notice that what is termed NewBD (multiAVCHD) is reported to play on the BD370. Non-java menu, of course.