Trying to edit an authorized DVD

[pinoyz3ro35]

I have this task at hand and it is to edit a homemade movie made from a third party source. The situation is to edit the last chapter of the movie. The problem is that I want the menus to still be intact since their already professionally made why lose them? I'm having trouble completing this because whenever I do replace the last .vob chapter with the longer the movie seems to run as long the original one and not the extended length. In other words, when I play the movie onto that chapter the movie runs only up to the original clip and does not forward progress. So am I missing a step or am I totally doing this wrong?

-Thanks CJ

[Baldrick]

Please don't cross post. I removed your other thread.

How do you replace the last vob chapter?

[pinoyz3ro35]

I replaced it simply by replacing the .vob file in the dvd folder since the chapter started with that file.

[lordsmurf]

Yeah, that doesn't work.
You can't just randomly replace files.

[pinoyz3ro35]

Yeah, that doesn't work.
You can't just randomly replace files.

Yeah I had a feeling it was as easy as that. Anyways, the chapter that I want to change is at the end of the movie, (26) cell to be exact. I've been trying to change it in Pgcedit to no avail.

[lordsmurf]

Demux/decompile.
Re-author.

[manono]

Open the DVD in VobBlanker. Highlight the video so it appears in the lower panel. Highlight the video in the lower panel and hit the 'Cells' button to the right. In the new screen that opens up highlight that last cell (chapter), hit the 'Replace' button to the right and scroll to the new little DVD you made to replace that last chapter. 'Apply', give it a 'Destination Folder', and 'Process'.

No demuxing required. No reauthoring required.

[pinoyz3ro35]

Open the DVD in VobBlanker. Highlight the video so it appears in the lower panel. Highlight the video in the lower panel and hit the 'Cells' button to the right. In the new screen that opens up highlight that last cell (chapter), hit the 'Replace' button to the right and scroll to the new little DVD you made to replace that last chapter. 'Apply', give it a 'Destination Folder', and 'Process'.

No demuxing required. No reauthoring required.

Thanks for the tip manono! Well I originally did that way and the output file's duration time was off(I added about 3 more minutes while the movie time showed less), I wonder if it always happens when you add/subtract a clip from a movie.

[manono]

I can't remember if I've noticed that as well. I think it's only going to show the original time. But as long as the whole thing is there (and it is, isn't it?), there's no problem, right?

What happens when you open the final edited DVD in VobBlanker? Is the length shown correctly? Is the length of that new final chapter shown correctly?

When you say 'the movie time showed less', do you mean less than the original length or less than the edited (and longer) length? And is it off by how much? A few seconds? If so, most software DVD players (and VobBlanker) don't show the correct length to begin with. They'll be off by about 7 seconds over the length of a 2 hour long movie.

[pinoyz3ro35]

I can't remember if I've noticed that as well. I think it's only going to show the original time. But as long as the whole thing is there (and it is, isn't it?), there's no problem, right?

What happens when you open the final edited DVD in VobBlanker? Is the length shown correctly? Is the length of that new final chapter shown correctly?

When you say 'the movie time showed less', do you mean less than the original length or less than the edited (and longer) length? And is it off by how much? A few seconds? If so, most software DVD players (and VobBlanker) don't show the correct length to begin with. They'll be off by about 7 seconds over the length of a 2 hour long movie.

Yeah when its played without any pause the longer clip is there.

However, when I open the final DVD it shows the duration times all wrong even in the cells. Weird huh?

Also after editing the vob in vegas (I needed to fade out at the end) I render it in mpg2/mpeg stream audio. I then replace the cell in vobblanker as I did before. The final dvd does the same as it did before (time was off) but this time it has no sound (only the chapter that i replaced). Looking through the ifoedit I noticed that the rest of the audio stream is in ac3 format. Could rendering the file in mpeg audio stream cause it from not playing sound with the rest of the DVD?

[manono]

Looking through the ifoedit I noticed that the rest of the audio stream is in ac3 format. Could rendering the file in mpeg audio stream cause it from not playing sound with the rest of the DVD?

If you didn't make the audio for that final chapter exactly the same as the rest of the DVD, you're only inviting trouble. Not only should it be AC3 audio, but it should also have the same number of channels and the same bitrate as well.

However, when I open the final DVD it shows the duration times all wrong even in the cells. Weird huh?

I already mentioned the times will be wrong, but are they different from the times in the original unedited DVD? Again though, none of that is important, I don't think, as long as the final DVD plays fine, the chapters can all be gone to with no problems, the join between the original DVD and that new edited last chapter is OK, and the entire DVD is there.

[pinoyz3ro35]

Looking through the ifoedit I noticed that the rest of the audio stream is in ac3 format. Could rendering the file in mpeg audio stream cause it from not playing sound with the rest of the DVD?

If you didn't make the audio for that final chapter exactly the same as the rest of the DVD, you're only inviting trouble. Not only should it be AC3 audio, but it should also have the same number of channels and the same bitrate as well.

However, when I open the final DVD it shows the duration times all wrong even in the cells. Weird huh?

I already mentioned the times will be wrong, but are they different from the times in the original unedited DVD? Again though, none of that is important, I don't think, as long as the final DVD plays fine, the chapters can all be gone to with no problems, the join between the original DVD and that new edited last chapter is OK, and the entire DVD is there.

Yeah I thought that was the case. I just have to find a way for Vegas to encode in ac3 and not mpeg stream, which at the moment isn't cooperating.

It's not of a big issue if it plays all way the way through. It's a peeve that's all.

I would like to thank you as well, manono, you've been a great help!

[manono]

You're welcome. There are free AC3 encoders, if you can export a WAV file from Vegas. Aften is a good one, and has a GUI, if you don't already have a good AC3 encoder. Or give eac3to a try.

[pinoyz3ro35]

You're welcome. There are free AC3 encoders, if you can export a WAV file from Vegas. Aften is a good one, and has a GUI, if you don't already have a good AC3 encoder. Or give eac3to a try.

Thanks for the tip, but I chose to use a different route. I actually exported two seperate files from vegas; The mpg2 video stream and the other audio stream (ac3). After this one done I opened up DVD Architect. Previously I wasnt aware that once the mpg2 file was imported into the program, the audio stream followed as well (both were imported) After they where simply imported I then rendered them into a vob file with both the mpg2 vid stream and ac3 audio stream. In which I was looking for.

^^ So after all this was accomplished I replaced the cell vob file with the finished one and voila! What do you know it works and this time the duration time was correct!. So i'm finally a happy camper..


Big thanks again manono you helped me through this one. Much appreciation to you.