DVD burning problems with new discs

[Lensmeister]

Hey all I hope soneone can help me before I start to lose my mind.

For years I have always used Verbatim or Datawrite DVD-R discs without a single hitch.

Before Christmas I bought a caketin of

TDK DVD-R DVD recordable/DVD inscriptable
4.7 GB Single Sided DVDs
1-16X speed in a pack of 100. (

I tried to use the first ones last night and this morning with problems. Now I am beginning to wonder if I have gone mad!

Using Windows XP Home edition on Two seperate Laptops and one desktop.
NEC DVD rewriter.
Nero and Windows expolrer and also ConvertXtoDVD by vso.

I took the DVDs back to maplin and he used a tablet and a dvd rewriter and got some photos burned on one DVD. I have come home and tried again and none of hte DVD I have tried work. I can't burn TV shows via ConvertXtoDVD I cannot burn photos to DVD va windows explorer on BOTH laptops and I cannot even access the DVD to format them.

I need help. Can anyone help me with this please. I fully intend to go back to maplins tomorrow and insist on a refund in full or swapped with a set of Verbatims.

Thanks in advance.

[jman98]

Bad burns are usually the result of low quality media. It could be that your burner is simply going bad, but I'd put the finger of blame on the media. Lower quality media may require a new write strategy. Things that can maybe help with those discs...
1) Update the firmware.
2) Don't use Nero! ImgBurn is free and much more reliable.
3) Burn at a slower speed such as 4x or 2x. Try even 1x if you have to. You may be burning at the highest speed and some DVD media does not really burn reliably at 16x.

I live in the USA so I don't keep up with TDK elsewhere, but in the USA TDK has not been good quality media for some years now. If your discs do not say Made in Japan then I would guess that your European TDK discs are now also made by lower quality manufacturers.

[hech54]

TDK are garbage. They are the only ones I know who even manage to screw up CD media as well....except the 800MB CDs....those are/were good if you can find them.

[Bjs]

1: Check for updated firmware for all your current burners and apply ... reboot and re-test
2: Use imgburn to do the test write only.
3: Nero should have produced a log ... nerohistory.log ... it may indicate the most likely cause of the burn issue.

Before posting the log please remove the user name and applications license key from the very start of the log

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4: Dvd-r or dvd+r should never be formatted.
5: If all else fails you should return them for exchange.

There are simply too many drive makes and models to compare as to media failure but TDK is something to avoid ever since they outsourced the media production.

[Kerry56]

If you do swap them for Verbatim, don't let them give you the "Life Series" Verbatims. Those are just CMC disks in a Verbatim package and are a bit hit or miss.

Look for AZO on the packaging of the Verbatims to get the better ones.

[Lensmeister]

Ok I tried to build and burn a disc and this is the logfile

I 18:21:38 ImgBurn Version 2.5.4.0 started!
I 18:21:38 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 18:21:38 Total Physical Memory: 228,848 KB  -  Available: 80,844 KB
W 18:21:38 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
I 18:21:38 Initialising SPTI...
I 18:21:38 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 18:21:38 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0L20 (D:) (ATA)
I 18:21:38 -> Drive 2 - Info: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A 2.15 (E:) (USB)
I 18:21:38 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 18:23:20 Operation Started!
I 18:23:20 Building Image Tree...
I 18:23:36 Checking Directory Depth...
I 18:23:36 Calculating Totals...
I 18:23:36 Preparing Image...
I 18:23:36 Checking Path Length...
I 18:23:36 Contents: 8 Files, 2 Folders
I 18:23:36 Content Type: DVD Video
I 18:23:36 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 18:23:36 File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 18:23:36 Volume Label: DVDTITLE
I 18:23:36 IFO/BUP 32K Padding: Enabled
I 18:23:36 Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8
I 18:23:36 TV System: PAL
I 18:23:36 Size: 2,174,160,896 bytes
I 18:23:36 Sectors: 1,061,602
I 18:23:36 Image Size: 2,174,746,624 bytes
I 18:23:36 Image Sectors: 1,061,888
I 18:23:41 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:20
I 18:23:41 Operation Started!
I 18:23:41 Image Contents: 8 Files, 2 Folders
I 18:23:41 Image Sectors: 1,061,888 (MODE1/2048)
I 18:23:41 Image Size: 2,174,746,624 bytes
I 18:23:41 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD-R/RW (Media Capacity: 2,297,888)
I 18:23:41 Image Volume Identifier: DVDTITLE
I 18:23:41 Image Volume Set Identifier: 3E2392EA001033F8
I 18:23:41 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.4.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 18:23:41 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 18:23:41 Image File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 18:23:41 Destination File: K:\Video Camera Footage\DVDTITLE.iso
I 18:23:41 Destination Free Space: 87,450,677,248 Bytes (85,401,052 KB) (83,399 MB) (81 GB)
I 18:23:41 Destination File System: NTFS
I 18:23:41 File Splitting: Auto
I 18:23:41 Writing Image...
I 18:26:56 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:14
I 18:26:56 Average Write Rate: 10,947 KB/s (7.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,479 KB/s (12.6x)
I 18:28:04 Operation Started!
I 18:28:04 Source File: K:\Video Camera Footage\DVDTITLE\DVDTITLE.iso
I 18:28:04 Source File Sectors: 1,061,888 (MODE1/2048)
I 18:28:04 Source File Size: 2,174,746,624 bytes
I 18:28:04 Source File Volume Identifier: DVDTITLE
I 18:28:04 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 3E2392EA001033F8
I 18:28:04 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.5.4.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 18:28:04 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 18:28:04 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 18:28:04 Destination Device: [0:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A 2.15 (E:) (USB)
I 18:28:04 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MBI 01RG40)
I 18:28:04 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888
I 18:28:04 Write Mode: DVD
I 18:28:04 Write Type: DAO
I 18:28:04 Write Speed: MAX
I 18:28:04 Link Size: Auto
I 18:28:04 Lock Volume: Yes
I 18:28:04 Test Mode: No
I 18:28:04 OPC: No
I 18:28:04 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 18:28:05 Write Speed Miscompare! - MODE SENSE: 5,645 KB/s (4.2x), GET PERFORMANCE: 1,352 KB/s (1x)
I 18:28:05 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 1,352 KB/s (1x)
E 18:28:20 Failed to Reserve Track! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 18:28:24 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:17
I 18:28:24 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

Thanks for the help

It still has not worked.

[lordsmurf]

Disc ID: MBI 01RG40

Inferior grade blanks.
Too bad it's not RITEKF1 TDK-brand -- that would have probably been fine.
Go back to Verbatim.
Not Datawrite, which is seconds, rejects and fakes.

Always refer to the media guide: Reviews > Blank DVD Media Quality

[Lensmeister]

Thanks

Time to get the old "get Angry" hat on and give them hell.

I can't see why they burned some photos on his tablet and DVD rewriter. Any Ideas. I think the Tablet was windows 7.

[jman98]

Thanks

Time to get the old "get Angry" hat on and give them hell.

I can't see why they burned some photos on his tablet and DVD rewriter. Any Ideas. I think the Tablet was windows 7.

Yes. We've basically already told you why, but possible answers are...
1) His burner has a more updated firmware than yours.
2) He burned at a lower speed.
3) He burned a lot less to disc than you did and didn't burn enough for an error to be generated.

Some combo of the above is your answer.

[[_chef_]]

Your burner is really OLD. A Nec 2510 was one of the earliest burners allowing to burn DVD+R DL...
Probably most important beside the crappy media you have chosen is the fact that your burner is external (USB) ............

Either get reliable dvd media now and test with your old burner or also buy a newer one for approx. 30 bucks and make usage of newer media and more speed.

PS: Be aware that your 2510 is ATAPI(IDE and most newer burners are SATA (in case you want to swap the new drive into the enclosure).

PS: Never ever use MAX as the burnspeed.

[Lensmeister]

Sorry all I forgot to reply to this earlier ....

I took back the DVDs to Maplin, they refunded an unopened pack but wanted me to send the opened ones to them to test, I got some Verbatims and burned two discs now with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

Looking forward to their customer services contacting me ...

Thanks for all the help everyone