How do you convert HD 1080i TS file to a file that Vegas accepts?

[SoccerLover]

Ok, so I've converted a file that is a HD 1080i TS file with StaxRip 1.1.7.0 Beta Version. I used Xvid - MP4 as converting settings. I'm a totally noob to StaxRip, and I am not really sure on how to do stuff with it.
So I converted it, and everything went successfully. I choose to not have the Audio because I was going to edit it and stuff. Then when I went to Vegas Pro 9.0 and imported it, it wouldn't play as normal, and the screen went black on the preview. I've got to know that the DivX to Avi is the best settings for these types of files, but I don't know why. And when I chose DivX - AVI VirtualDub popped up and said: ''Video Compression Error: The Source Image blah blah''. I've seen this is a common error, but I don't understand how to fix this, and get on the editing. And StaxRip uses waay to long to convert those files. About 3-4 hours. So please, can anyone help?

[poisondeathray]

why can't you import the original file ?

what are the specifications and where is it from ? use mediainfo

[SoccerLover]

why can't you import the original file ?

what are the specifications and where is it from ? use mediainfo

Well, I can't import it directly because it has too many errors and warnings. I scanned it with TSDoctor.

[edDV]

Vegas Pro 9 will import the 1080i MPeg2 TS files (as broadcast) directly or with a demux in some cases.

Or, did it come from a camera/camcorder? Or is it something you downloaded?

Use Mediainfo and tell us what you've got. Xvid is not what you want for import to Vegas.

[SoccerLover]

Vegas Pro 9 will import the 1080i MPeg2 TS files (as broadcast) directly or with a demux in some cases.

Or, did it come from a camera/camcorder? Or is it something you downloaded?

Use Mediainfo and tell us what you've got. Xvid is not what you want for import to Vegas.

Well, I downloaded the files from the internet. And often, when you download TS files from the net, it contains a lot of errors and stuff. I can't use mediainfo because I deleted the files since I didn't think it was possible to deal with.

[edDV]

Vegas Pro 9 will import the 1080i MPeg2 TS files (as broadcast) directly or with a demux in some cases.

Or, did it come from a camera/camcorder? Or is it something you downloaded?

Use Mediainfo and tell us what you've got. Xvid is not what you want for import to Vegas.

Well, I downloaded the files from the internet. And often, when you download TS files from the net, it contains a lot of errors and stuff. I can't use mediainfo because I deleted the files since I didn't think it was possible to deal with.

Downloaded TS files could be from many sources such as digital TV tuners, camcorders or other. I see no reason why they should contain "lots of errors". It is easier to capture these files than play them, particularly if h.264.

[SoccerLover]

Vegas Pro 9 will import the 1080i MPeg2 TS files (as broadcast) directly or with a demux in some cases.

Or, did it come from a camera/camcorder? Or is it something you downloaded?

Use Mediainfo and tell us what you've got. Xvid is not what you want for import to Vegas.

Well, I downloaded the files from the internet. And often, when you download TS files from the net, it contains a lot of errors and stuff. I can't use mediainfo because I deleted the files since I didn't think it was possible to deal with.

Downloaded TS files could be from many sources such as digital TV tuners, camcorders or other. I see no reason why they should contain "lots of errors". It is easier to capture these files than play them, particularly if h.264.

Ok, so my main question is then: How do I convert from Divx to AVI settings without getting the error in VirtualDub?

[edDV]

So you are sure this is divx?

Install the divx codec. Decompress the the input and output in a format Vegas will accept.

[SoccerLover]

So you are sure this is divx?

Install the divx codec. Decompress the the input and output in a format Vegas will accept.

I already have the Divx codec. The file is a TS file. I use Divx to AVI as a setting in StaxRip, and it wouldn't work, because of the error in VirtualDub. How do I fix this?

[SoccerLover]

So you are sure this is divx?

Install the divx codec. Decompress the the input and output in a format Vegas will accept.

I already have the Divx codec. The file is a TS file. I use Divx to AVI as a setting in StaxRip, and it wouldn't work, because of the error in VirtualDub. How do I fix this?

The error is named like this: ''Video compression error: The source image format is not acceptable. (error code -2)

Here is a mediainfo scan on my new TS file:
General
ID : 10
Complete name : C:\Users\Bruker\Downloads\Real Madrid - Milan 19.10.2010.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 6.89 GiB
Duration : 1h 35mn
Overall bit rate : 10.3 Mbps

Video
ID : 170 (0xAA)
Menu ID : 11025 (0x2B11)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate : 9 432 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.182
Stream size : 6.29 GiB (91%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 452 (0x1C4)
Menu ID : 11025 (0x2B11)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : 4ms
Stream size : 131 MiB (2%)
Language : std
Language, more info : Clean effects

Audio #2
ID : 453 (0x1C5)
Menu ID : 11025 (0x2B11)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : 18ms
Stream size : 131 MiB (2%)
Language : std
Language, more info : Clean effects

Hope this can solve the problem, please help fast because I need to make a new video.

[poisondeathray]

open it in tsmuxer and select output m2ts muxing, press start muxing

this will re-wrap into m2ts and vegas should accept it

this is better than converting to some lossy format, you keep the original quality

if you wanted to convert it, you need to install haali media splitter, ffdshow

[edDV]

Your TS file is AVC not MPeg2. As poisondeathray says, the issue with Vegas Pro 9 is the wrapper, not the video codec. You should experiment with different containers with tsmuxer as suggested. This will not degrade video or audio quality. If Vegas rejects the 2 channel AC3 audio, you can easily convert audio to PCM stereo without affecting video.

[SoccerLover]

Your TS file is AVC not MPeg2. As poisondeathray says, the issue with Vegas Pro 9 is the wrapper, not the video codec. You should experiment with different containers with tsmuxer as suggested. This will not degrade video or audio quality. If Vegas rejects the 2 channel AC3 audio, you can easily convert audio to PCM stereo without affecting video.

I think the tsMuxer worked actually. YES! Now, can I use this tsMuxer to convert MKV HD files to another file without losing qualtiy? Thank you for all the help given in this thread!

[edDV]

Your TS file is AVC not MPeg2. As poisondeathray says, the issue with Vegas Pro 9 is the wrapper, not the video codec. You should experiment with different containers with tsmuxer as suggested. This will not degrade video or audio quality. If Vegas rejects the 2 channel AC3 audio, you can easily convert audio to PCM stereo without affecting video.

I think the tsMuxer worked actually. YES! Now, can I use this tsMuxer to convert MKV HD files to another file without losing qualtiy? Thank you for all the help given in this thread!

Changing the wrapper does not alter quality.

[SoccerLover]

Changing the wrapper does not alter quality.[/QUOTE]

Ok, so what's that supposed to mean? I'm not a total video genius, so if you could explain yourself...

[edDV]

First you have individual audio or video streams encoded by a codec (e.g. MPeg2, h.264, xvid, AC3, MP2... etc.).

These are multiplexed into various containers (AVI, MPeg2, MP4, MKV, TS, M2T, M2TS ..., etc).

You can demux the internal streams from the container and remux into a different container without recode. That is basically what tsmuxer does.

TS containers (TS, MTS, M2T, etc.) are so called linear packetized streams (analogous to robust shipping containers) intended for media recording, network streaming or broadcast. M2TS is a random access version used in flash memory applications and Blu-Ray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream

See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packetized_Elementary_Stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_program_stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2ts

Think of it this way
Elementary stream is like a birthday gift or card.
Packetized elementary stream is like a wrapped gift or card in envelope.
Program stream is a shipping box containing several wrapped gifts and cards.
Transport stream is a group of hardened shipping containers containing many boxes intended for long distance transport to a particular addess. These may arrive in random order so need consolidation (buffering) at the receiving dock.

[SoccerLover]

First you have individual audio or video streams encoded by a codec (e.g. MPeg2, h.264, xvid, AC3, MP2... etc.).

These are multiplexed into various containers (AVI, MPeg2, MP4, MKV, TS, M2T, M2TS ..., etc).

You can demux the internal streams from the container and remux into a different container without recode. That is basically what tsmuxer does.

TS containers (TS, MTS, M2T, etc.) are so called linear packetized streams (analogous to robust shipping containers) intended for media recording, network streaming or broadcast. M2TS is a random access version used in flash memory applications and Blu-Ray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream

See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packetized_Elementary_Stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_program_stream
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2ts[/UR

Think of it this way
Elementary stream is like a birthday gift or card.
Packetized elementary stream is like a wrapped gift or card in envelope.
Program stream is a shipping box containing several wrapped gifts and cards.
Transport stream is a group of hardened shipping containers containing many boxes intended for long distance transport to a particular addess. These may arrive in random order so need consolidation (buffering) at the receiving dock.


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Thank you for the useful information!

[SoccerLover]

Hey guyz. Got some bad news. I currently have a new TS file, and I muxed it with tsmuxer. It won't import to Vegas! I'm back where I started. I converted to every single thing the tsmuxer had, and it wouldn't imort. Then I tried Handbrake, but then it made a m4v file that Vegas doesn't recognise. Looks like I'm back where I freaking started...

[poisondeathray]

what kind of ts file? again, use mediainfo...

[SoccerLover]

what kind of ts file? again, use mediainfo...

Ok, sorry for not doing that, forgot it!

Here you go:

Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 8.62 GiB
Duration : 1h 45mn
Overall bit rate : 11.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=48
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 10.7 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.206
Stream size : 7.86 GiB (91%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : 2ms
Stream size : 145 MiB (2%)
Language : Spanish

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : 6ms
Stream size : 145 MiB (2%)
Language : dos

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Mode : Joint stereo
Codec ID : 4
Duration : 1h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Video delay : 22ms
Stream size : 121 MiB (1%)
Language : tre

It says Blu-Ray because I used TSmuxer to mux it.

[poisondeathray]

can you cut a small sample with tsmuxer (split&cut tab) and upload it to the site or a free hosting site (e.g. mediafire.com) or here if < 30MB

You can always convert it with avisynth & vdub into uncompressed AVI for import as well .

[SoccerLover]

No, can't upload a sample of the video. StaxRip is a excellent tool, but it's the VirtualDub that won't let me convert...

[poisondeathray]

yes it will, if you use avisynth to load it into vdub

[SoccerLover]

I don't know how to use AviSynth. I use StaxRip, and choose Divx to AVI. It loads, and then the common error that everybody haves pops up. ''The Source Image'' something like that...

[poisondeathray]

That's too bad, you can learn if you want

You can basically load anything with avisynth. If a video plays properly you can use an avs script

You can even load .avs scripts directly into vegas with avfs without intermediate files




Regarding the error message, post the full message.

Do you have haali media splitter installed and ffdshow

[SoccerLover]

That's too bad, you can learn if you want

You can basically load anything with avisynth. If a video plays properly you can use an avs script

You can even load .avs scripts directly into vegas with avfs without intermediate files




Regarding the error message, post the full message.

Do you have haali media splitter installed and ffdshow

Ok, so nothing of what everybody has said is working. I am just going to convert the files with Xilisoft Video Converter 5 even if it loses quality. Can't find ANY solutin to this problem... Ridicoulus!

[poisondeathray]

did you try avisynth? if the file plays, you can frameserve it so no quality loss, no time wasted converting

there might be other ways, but I need a sample

good luck

[SoccerLover]

did you try avisynth? if the file plays, you can frameserve it so no quality loss, no time wasted converting

there might be other ways, but I need a sample

good luck

I've never worked with avisynth before. Do you have any youtube tutorials or any idea? Could you please please write how to do it and stuff?
-thank in advance

[poisondeathray]

avisynth
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page#New_to_AviSynth_-_start_here

avfs (avisynth virtual file system)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133313

1) Make sure haali media spliter and ffdshow are installed. On win7 use win7dsfiltertweaker to make sure ffdshow is used instead of microsoft decoder .
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/Preferred_Filter_Tweaker

2) Create an avs script and mount the image with avfs , import into vegas

e.g
DirectShowSource("video.ts")
ConvertToRGB24(matrix="rec709", interlaced=true)


Alternatively, you can use a similar script to import into vdub to encode to a lossless intermediate (e.g. uncompressed, lagarith huffyuv, ut video codec , etc...)
e.g.
DirectShowSource("video.ts")

[SoccerLover]

avisynth
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page#New_to_AviSynth_-_start_here

avfs (avisynth virtual file system)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133313

1) Make sure haali media spliter and ffdshow are installed. On win7 use win7dsfiltertweaker to make sure ffdshow is used instead of microsoft decoder .
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/Preferred_Filter_Tweaker

2) Create an avs script and mount the image with avfs , import into vegas

e.g
DirectShowSource("video.ts")
ConvertToRGB24(matrix="rec709", interlaced=true)

Ok, so I tried avisynth. I installed it and made a txt. document file and wrote where my file was path and everything, and added the extension .avi to the end(even though it is .ts). It didn't work in Vegas, it just popped up that an error occured. Then I changed the extension to .ts and it didn't work either . What shall I do to make it work?


Alternatively, you can use a similar script to import into vdub to encode to a lossless intermediate (e.g. uncompressed, lagarith huffyuv, ut video codec , etc...)
e.g.
DirectShowSource("video.ts")

Ok, so I tried avisynth. I installed it and made a txt. document file and wrote where my file was path and everything, and added the extension .avi to the end(even though it is .ts). It didn't work in Vegas, it just popped up that an error occured. Then I changed the extension to .ts and it didn't work either . What shall I do to make it work?