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    Does anyone know if the Hauppauge 1192 WinTV-HVR-1950 is as MacroVision friendly as its predecessor, the WINTV USB2 PVR?
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    Yes it is MacroVision friendly as its predecessor
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    How well does it handle the 'new' do not record broadcast flag(s)?
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    What do you mean by (do not record broadcast flag) ? Are your ref to ATSC or QAM, if that what your ref to it mean it will be the same any other device if it mark with the flag do not record broadcast you pettey much SOL.
    None of the PVR or HVR support MacroVision unless you use it Windows MCE.
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    What do you mean by (do not record broadcast flag)
    This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag
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    Originally Posted by olyteddy View Post
    What do you mean by (do not record broadcast flag)
    This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag
    You need under stand at all digital tuner can't by pass the broadcast flag like I said if it mark with the flag do not record broadcast you pettey much SOL.
    I wouldt'n worry about it for your local borardcast
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    The broadcast flag is not what you need to worry about. Nobody is presently allowed to use it. Yes, there was a stink made about Microsoft's Windows Media Center failing to record some NBC programs when it was used by mistake a few years ago, but I have not seen reports of problems since then that have been confirmed as being caused by use of the broadcast flag.

    CGMS-A and DTCP (5C) are the technologies presently used to control recording TV in the US. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGMS-A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Transmission_Content_Protection

    You should not encounter problems with either of them except for premium channels (HBO, etc), on-demand movies and pay-per-view events. Only "copy freely" is allowed to be used elsewhere at present. The FCC has to approve the use of anything other than "copy freely", and one of the things the applicant has to do to get approval is to provide a reasonable opportunity to time-shift viewing by other means than recording.

    Most new US consumer electronics that can record video obey these forms of copy protection, and this has been true for a few years now. It is a matter of agreements within the industries involved, rather than a legal requirement.

    I think with PC TV tuners, the recording software is what tends to respond to them rather than hardware. Windows Media Center definitely does. You should find out whether whatever PVR software you plan to use does or doesn't honor them.

    [Edit]Looks like something I read earlier is out of date. Wikipedia says in another article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control_Information that the FCC allows cable providers to set any non-premium subscription channel to either "copy once" or "copy freely". However, all local broadcast stations must be set to "copy freely". PVR software would still most likely be the critical factor for PCs.
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