I ripped a copy of Shrek from DVD and converted it to MPEG yesterday and couldn't believe the quality. I accidently left the resolution too high than and it looked excellent, even at the relatively low bitrate. Must be the clean simple source I guess. So this may work with other CGI films. Here's the TMPGEnc 2.52 settings:
MPEG-2
Audio 160Kb/s
Res: 720 x 568 (PAL) - you could drop the 720 down to 480 for normal SVCD, I was amazed that this worked.
2-pass VBR - Max 3200, Min 300, Avg 1800 (I'm having a lot of success with 2-pass VBR at the moment)
The motion search may have been high quality or estimate.
Result = 2 x 45ish minutes CDs of bloody excellent quality. :D
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Originally Posted by bolix999
B) 2-Pass VBR is definitely the way to go. TMPGEnc 2Pass ~ CCE 4Pass, yielding similar results.
C) Most DVD players read a maximum bitrate of 2500kbps for SVCDs, so if yours can read the 3200 thats great, but other people might wanna check to see what their max is.
Other than that, sounds like a good rip u didCGI sources are very nice to work with, and you seem to know what your doing, esp. with the bitrates and following the guides, good to know someone does research. Just curious, what DVD Player do u have that can read 3K+ bitrates??
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Quite right, I had a typo on the resolution. I'm using a Hiteker AD-700, a cousin of the Haier and Apex players. I'm just having another go with an encode so I'll post the results later. This VCD/SVCD stuff is a voyage of pain, but you have to do it yourself to learn what you like. You see a lot of posts asking what are the best settings. It's a bit like asking how should I paint my house. The guides on this site are a damn good start though.
Cheers,
Bollix -
Remember, whatever you do, don't post the template (*.mcf file, open in text editor, copy/paste here), because it ends the discussion way too quickly (because people won't have any questions left to ask you about your tmpgenc settings...)
As Churchill famously predicted when Chamberlain returned from Munich proclaiming peace in his time: "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war." -
Well not for another 9 hours anyway, so there should be enough time for "What GOP are you using?" "You're full of shit, that's crap" etc etc.
Cheers,
Bolix -
Heres the TMPGEnc 2.52 template
object TMPEGConfigFile
MPEG.Text = ''
MPEG.WizardCategoryName = ''
MPEG.WizardSubFormatName = ''
MPEG.WizardCaption = ''
MPEG.WizardDescription = ''
MPEG.OutputStreamType = MPEG_OutputStreamType_System_VideoAudio
MPEG.OutputStreamType_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.StreamType = MPEGVideoEncoder_StreamType_MPEG2
MPEG.Video.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.Width = 480
MPEG.Video.Width_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.Height = 576
MPEG.Video.Height_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.YUVFormat = 1
MPEG.Video.YUVFormat_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.DC_prec = 0
MPEG.Video.DC_prec_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_VideoEncodeMode_Interlace
MPEG.Video.VideoEncodeMode_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.FrameRate = 3
MPEG.Video.FrameRate_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.AspectRatio = 2
MPEG.Video.AspectRatio_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.RateControlMode = MPEGVideoEncoder_RateControlMode_VBR_2PASS
MPEG.Video.RateControlMode_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate = 0
MPEG.Video.MaxBitRate_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.MinBitRate = 0
MPEG.Video.MinBitRate_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.CBR_BitRate = 2520000
MPEG.Video.VBR_MultipassVBRAlgorithm = MPEGVideoEncoder_MultipassVBRAlgorithm_MultipassCQ
MPEG.Video.VBR_AvgBitRate = 1800000
MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxBitRate = 3200000
MPEG.Video.VBR_MinBitRate = 300000
MPEG.Video.VBR_MaxPassCount = 2
MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_P = 0
MPEG.Video.VBR_Quality_B = 20
MPEG.Video.VBR_EnablePadding = False
MPEG.Video.MVBR_MaxBitRate = 2520000
MPEG.Video.MVBR_MinBitRate = 0
MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_P = 0
MPEG.Video.MVBR_Quality_B = 20
MPEG.Video.MVBR_EnablePadding = False
MPEG.Video.AVBR_Quality = 50
MPEG.Video.AVBR_MaxBitRate = 2520000
MPEG.Video.AVBR_MinBitRate = 0
MPEG.Video.AVBR_EnablePadding = False
MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality = 65
MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_P = 0
MPEG.Video.CQ_Quality_B = 20
MPEG.Video.CQ_MaxBitRate = 2520000
MPEG.Video.CQ_MinBitRate = 0
MPEG.Video.CQ_EnablePadding = False
MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize = 114688
MPEG.Video.VBVBufferSize_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval = 1
MPEG.Video.GOP_SeqHeaderInterval_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount = 1
MPEG.Video.GOP_I_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount = 5
MPEG.Video.GOP_P_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount = 2
MPEG.Video.GOP_B_FrameCount_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_BitStreamForEdit_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount = 0
MPEG.Video.GOP_MaxFrameCount_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.Profile = 4
MPEG.Video.Profile_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.Level = 8
MPEG.Video.Level_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.VideoFormat = 1
MPEG.Video.VideoFormat_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth = 0
MPEG.Video.DisplayWidth_ReadOnly = True
MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight = 0
MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight_ReadOnly = True
MPEG.Video.MotionSearchSpeed = MPEGVideoEncoder_MotionSearchSpeed_Slow
MPEG.Video.MotionSearch_AlwaysHalfPel = True
MPEG.Video.UseFloatDCT = False
MPEG.Video.QuantizeMode = False
MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_Intra = 35
MPEG.Video.QuantizeModeVal_NonIntra = 35
MPEG.Video.YUVBasicYCbCr = False
MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_Intra = {
081013161A1B1D22101016181B1D222513161A1B1D22222616 161A1B1D222528
161A1B1D202328301A1B1D202328303A1A1B1D22262E38451B 1D23262E384553}
MPEG.Video.QuantizeMatrix_NonIntra = {
10111213141516171112131415161718121314151617181913 14151617181A1B
14151617191A1B1C151617181A1B1C1E1617181A1B1C1E1F17 18191B1C1E1F21}
MPEG.Audio.StreamType = MPEGAudioEncoder_StreamType_MPEG1_Layer2
MPEG.Audio.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency = 44100
MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode = 0
MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.CantUseMono = False
MPEG.Audio.BitRate = 160000
MPEG.Audio.BitRate_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC = True
MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag = False
MPEG.Audio.OriginalFlag_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag = False
MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag = False
MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType = 0
MPEG.Audio.EmphasisType_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.System.StreamType = MPEGSystemEncoder_StreamType_MPEG2_SuperVideoCD_VB R
MPEG.System.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.System.CommentText = ''
MPEG.System.EnableCommentText = False
end
Cheers,
Bolix
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