JVC TY 16x 100pks for $20 at Supermediastore.com--1 day only

[terryj]

heads up:
http://www.supermediastore.com/category/u/supermediastore-hot-deal-promotion?utm_sourc...ain%20Bonanzas!

ordering mine now...sucks because I just bought a 200pk last friday for $43 bucks....

[Baggy]

heads up:
http://www.supermediastore.com/category/u/supermediastore-hot-deal-promotion?utm_sourc...ain%20Bonanzas!

ordering mine now...sucks because I just bought a 200pk last friday for $43 bucks....

Those are value line disks in tape wrap.

[MJA]

yes.they are in tape wrap.I bought some few months ago for $19.95 + free shipping from the same store.

[terryj]

heads up:
http://www.supermediastore.com/category/u/supermediastore-hot-deal-promotion?utm_sourc...ain%20Bonanzas!

ordering mine now...sucks because I just bought a 200pk last friday for $43 bucks....

Those are value line disks in tape wrap.

Yes, and Value Line TY is still TYG03, which means still great burns at up to 16x,

which still means they are better quality media than anything at the local retail shelf....
your point?

[Baggy]

heads up:
http://www.supermediastore.com/category/u/supermediastore-hot-deal-promotion?utm_sourc...ain%20Bonanzas!

ordering mine now...sucks because I just bought a 200pk last friday for $43 bucks....

Those are value line disks in tape wrap.

Yes, and Value Line TY is still TYG03, which means still great burns at up to 16x,

which still means they are better quality media than anything at the local retail shelf....
your point?

The value line discs are either TYG02 or TYG03 and are premium DVD rejects. These are discs that did not meet the minimum standards to be labeled “premium”. As such this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

[lordsmurf]

The value line discs are either TYG02 or TYG03 and are premium DVD rejects. These are discs that did not meet the minimum standards to be labeled “premium”. As such this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

Baloney.
It's like saying a Value disc is only an "A" while the Premium is an "A+"
Both are still top notch.
Most other manufacturer's "best" discs are a B grade at best.

Read this for a longer explanation: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/showthread.php/ty-valueline-lower-370.html

There should be zero apprehension about TY Value Line media.

[terryj]

The value line discs are either TYG02 or TYG03 and are premium DVD rejects. These are discs that did not meet the minimum standards to be labeled “premium”. As such this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

Baloney.
It's like saying a Value disc is only an "A" while the Premium is an "A+"
Both are still top notch.
Most other manufacturer's "best" discs are a B grade at best.

Read this for a longer explanation: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/showthread.php/ty-valueline-lower-370.html

There should be zero apprehension about TY Value Line media.

Amen smurfy! Perhaps Baggy's burners are at fault if he gets bad burns...
I've burned just in the last three days 60 off the last 200 spindle I bought and all 60 burned successfully,
and not a complaint from the friends I gave them out to.

For the record I scanned every third disc with DVD Media Inspector, they all showed as TYG03's.
Quality media, Great price ,...equals GREAT VALUE!!

[Baggy]

The value line discs are either TYG02 or TYG03 and are premium DVD rejects. These are discs that did not meet the minimum standards to be labeled “premium”. As such this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

Baloney.
It's like saying a Value disc is only an "A" while the Premium is an "A+"
Both are still top notch.
Most other manufacturer's "best" discs are a B grade at best.

Read this for a longer explanation: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/showthread.php/ty-valueline-lower-370.html

There should be zero apprehension about TY Value Line media.

Why purchase value line when premium discs can be purchased for the same price? It's just a matter of waiting for a sale isn't it?

As an example, Newegg has a 100 spindle of Verbatim AZO discs on sale now for $20.00 with free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817507003

Why waste money on Value line discs?

[lordsmurf]

You also falsely assume the in-house sub-branding has any meaning. Just look around at all the low-quality discs that call themselves "Professional Grade". Why buy Premium when you could buy Professional? It's a psychological argument. It's marketing.

Buy TY because it's TY ... period.

I don't trust Newegg. They've screwed up far too many things in years past (failed rebates, crappy packing, shipping out a newer-but-inferior model than ordered). I would not put it past them to start sending Life Series or Value Series discs out for Verbatim orders. Just you watch! A lot of states get taxed, too, including mine.

Amazon is a better merchant to deal with, because you know what you're getting:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2F...reative=390957
AZO DVD-R currently $20, free shipping on $25 orders.
AZO DVD+R currently $23, free shipping on $25 orders.

[Baggy]

I desire to make a reasonable choice in the media that I purchase. My budget is not unlimited so getting the best value for my money is important. If you were presented with the option to buy 100 value line Ty discs or 100 premium line Ty discs for the same price, which would you purchase?

For my shopping dollar, it is necessary to rank media in terms of both quality and price. In my opinion, $20.00 for a 100 pack of value line Ty discs is a bad deal when for the same money (or less) you can buy Verbatim AZO's or premium Ty's.

[CSULB71]

The value line discs are either TYG02 or TYG03 and are premium DVD rejects. These are discs that did not meet the minimum standards to be labeled “premium”. As such this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

Baloney.
It's like saying a Value disc is only an "A" while the Premium is an "A+"
Both are still top notch.
Most other manufacturer's "best" discs are a B grade at best.

Read this for a longer explanation: http://www.digitalFAQ.com/forum/showthread.php/ty-valueline-lower-370.html

There should be zero apprehension about TY Value Line media.

Not doubting the quality of TY Value Line media (certainly not second rate), but what Baggy said is per SuperMediaStore's own Q&A section:
"What is JV Taiyo Yuden “Value Line” DVD media?
“Value Line” DVDs are made by Taiyo Yuden but don’t meet their high standards for premium DVDs. Then the manufacturer sells them as “Value Line”"

[lordsmurf]

What Baggy said is

this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

That's what I take issue with. It's not accurate.

"don’t meet their high standards" does NOT equal "second rate and lower quality"

I would agree Verbatim discs are a better buy.

[Baggy]

What Baggy said is

this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

That's what I take issue with. It's not accurate.

"don’t meet their high standards" does NOT equal "second rate and lower quality"

"Taiyo Yuden has very strict grading procedures, and anything judged to be "not best" as well as "not reject crap" is put into this Value line. Burning discs slower than the rated speed is a common (and effective) way to avoid burning errors, especially on potentially sub-graded discs. Therefore TY Value discs tend to be rated as "8x" even when the media itself was manufactured to be 16x DVD-R."


Read more: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/taiyo-yuden-8x-2310.html?#ixzz0udHsUAHZ


I might add that value discs are generally less expensive for a good reason, lower quality.

[terryj]

You also falsely assume the in-house sub-branding has any meaning. Just look around at all the low-quality discs that call themselves "Professional Grade". Why buy Premium when you could buy Professional? It's a psychological argument. It's marketing.

Buy TY because it's TY ... period.

I don't trust Newegg. They've screwed up far too many things in years past (failed rebates, crappy packing, shipping out a newer-but-inferior model than ordered). I would not put it past them to start sending Life Series or Value Series discs out for Verbatim orders. Just you watch! A lot of states get taxed, too, including mine.

Amazon is a better merchant to deal with, because you know what you're getting:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2F...reative=390957
AZO DVD-R currently $20, free shipping on $25 orders.
AZO DVD+R currently $23, free shipping on $25 orders.

or if you pay for Amazon Prime, it's ALWAYS free shipping!

[MJA]

Prime is free if you are a student

http://www.amazon.com/gp/student/signup/info?tag=techbargainscom

[terryj]

What Baggy said is

this media is second rate and lower quality. Burns will not always be "great".

That's what I take issue with. It's not accurate.

"don’t meet their high standards" does NOT equal "second rate and lower quality"

"Taiyo Yuden has very strict grading procedures, and anything judged to be "not best" as well as "not reject crap" is put into this Value line. Burning discs slower than the rated speed is a common (and effective) way to avoid burning errors, especially on potentially sub-graded discs. Therefore TY Value discs tend to be rated as "8x" even when the media itself was manufactured to be 16x DVD-R."


Read more: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/taiyo-yuden-8x-2310.html?#ixzz0udHsUAHZ


I might add that value discs are generally less expensive for a good reason, lower quality.

Not to continue beating a dead horse but:

from same article

I would add, however, that many people can burn these at 16x with zero issues. Many more choose to use 12x burning speed on the DVD-R, and that still results in a good burn.

Your choice in DVD burners is actually a more likely culprit in the issues you've come across. Much how there are only a few DVD manufacturers, there are only a few DVD burner manufacturers. So changing "brands" of burner may not actually be changing burned type. The age of the burner may not necessarily be important, either. Older firmware can be excellent (including default write strategies), while newer burners come with problematic firmware instructions for the discs.

But beyond that, it's also not a secret that Taiyo Yuden is not "the best" media at all times. There is a reason TY discs are not rated as the #1 best blank DVD-R here at The Digital FAQ -- this is it. TY media sometimes burns extremely poorly in burners, and it plays/reads with many problems. While this is most definitely a "fault" of the drives, it's still a statement about the overall quality of the discs. Verbatim/Mitsubishi AZO media has no such issues.

Read more: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/taiyo-yuden-8x-2310.html?#ixzz0udYd11Y9

So that we may end this:

I agree that TY is not "the best media" in the world, simply based on the fact that it
doesn't have THE WIDEST COMPATABILITY with all DVD Burners.
Verbatim (AZO), however does, and I concede on that point, IT IS A BETTER DISC THAN ANY TY MADE DISC.

I however disagree, that a $20 pack of TY Value line, or Premium Line for that matter, if on sale is a better
deal than off sale Verbatim (AZO), if your burner has not had a problem with any TY Media.

As I've listed in the DVD Media List link on the left several times,
TYG03 media burns fine at 8x, 12x, and 16x in the following burners:

Pioneer DVR-109
Pioneer DVR-112D
Samsung SH-S222L
Magnavox MWR-106D

As always, the best media to any ONE person is the media that burns the best for you,
ie. produces a less than 1% ratio of coasters, and procduces a less than 3% fail rate of
verification ( on the mac) or Pif scanned ( on the PC), per 50 disc spindle.

for me, those discs are ( in no type of order): TY ( Value or Premium, JVC or non), Verbatim (AZO).