Intensity Shuttle Problem.

[Gradius2]

For audio I would never depended on it. I would just use a good dedicated sound card.

Also 2xHDD (or more) using RAID 0 is a must. Better yet if they are 7200 RPM or even SSD.

[jalyst]

So apologies for my ignorance if I've misunderstood earlier posts...
But this card essentially does not allow one to capture HDCP sources, or is it not as simple as that?
I'm mostly interested in capturing HDCP encrypted HD (DD/DTS) audio sources, not so much video.

[Gradius2]

You can but for this you need to hack the drivers OR buy a "hdcp-killer" device.

Sorry if I cannot say anything further.

For audio part is different, you need a lot things, hardware included, unless you just want things like rip blu-ray.

[jalyst]

You mean a "HDCP-stripper"?
The only one of I know of is the HDFury, but it's not really a capture device.

I know of a few hdcp licensed capture cards that aren't "properly" hdcp compliant.

So they may be an option for capturing HD audio...
It's just whether i can do what i wanna do after that, that I'm not sure about.

[Gradius2]

You mean a "HDCP-stripper"?
The only one of I know of is the HDFury, but it's not really a capture device.

I know of a few hdcp licensed capture cards that aren't "properly" hdcp compliant.

So they may be an option for capturing HD audio...
It's just whether i can do what i wanna do after that, that I'm not sure about.

Nope, not HDFury, that thing is for old projectors.

Some switchers do that, but I don't know which them, but if you look around you might found it. Hacking the drivers would be MUCH better and cheap.

About HD audio a lot more is necessary, but depends the source, if is just bluray is very easy, otherwise it gets expensive.

[jalyst]

Can you please suggests some devices & clarify what you mean here:
About HD audio a lot more is necessary, but depends the source, if is just bluray is very easy, otherwise it gets expensive.

I've already got a few ideas & devices I'm considering here...
Perhaps you agree/disagree with my or other users opinions?

Thank-you.

[hazard0us]

Hey folks, this is my first post to this forum. I've had an Intensity Shuttle since October or so and never gotten it to work. I gave up initially, and have been trying again today - my hardware is the same as it was before but I had to reformat my main drive and put W7 on it again - thus the renewed effort.

As far as I know, my motherboard has the latest BIOS, the USB 3.0 has the latest BIOS (is this on the motherboard or inside the Shuttle?), and I have the latest version of the Intensity Desktop software & Media Express. I have seen the Blackmagic Control Panel and have been able to change the selections on it. I saw it recognize the Shuttle when I plugged it in after doing the USB firmware update, and the tooltip said "Your Shuttle Is Ready To Use." The messages were all very comforting, until I ran Media Express, and I have yet to see its main window open up. It simply proclaims "The Blackmagic hardware can not be found in your system. Please check the installation."

What am I doing wrong?

Motherboard BIOS version 2.6
Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller reports Driver version 2.0.34.0 and firmware version 3027.
Intensity 3.9.4
Media Express 2.3

Thanks in advance -H

[hazard0us]

BTW I read the entire thread before posting... I know I have the same problem as many others but I think my hardware ought to work.

[Signal]

Motherboard BIOS version 2.6
Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller reports Driver version 2.0.34.0 and firmware version 3027.
Intensity 3.9.4
Media Express 2.3

3.9.4 is that right?
That's the current version for the Intensity PCIe card driver.
7.9.4 is the current USB 3.0 Intensity Shuttle version.

Scroll down on Blackmagic's support download page.
Intensity Shuttle has it's own section.

[jalyst]

Can you please suggests some devices & clarify what you mean here:
About HD audio a lot more is necessary, but depends the source, if is just bluray is very easy, otherwise it gets expensive.

I've already got a few ideas & devices I'm considering here...
Perhaps you agree/disagree with my or other users opinions?

Thank-you.

Gradius/anyone?
Apologies for the threadjack, final bump to see if anyone can help.

Thank-you.

[Gradius2]

Can you please suggests some devices & clarify what you mean here:
About HD audio a lot more is necessary, but depends the source, if is just bluray is very easy, otherwise it gets expensive.

I've already got a few ideas & devices I'm considering here...
Perhaps you agree/disagree with my or other users opinions?

Thank-you.

Gradius/anyone?
Apologies for the threadjack, final bump to see if anyone can help.

Thank-you.

What are you trying to do? I need more details. If is about bluray just buy AnyDVD HD.

[Gradius2]

BTW I read the entire thread before posting... I know I have the same problem as many others but I think my hardware ought to work.

7.9.4:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/downloads/software_readme/Blackmagic_USB_3.0_Desktop_...dows_7.9.4.rtf

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/downloads/software/Blackmagic_USB_3.0_Desktop_Video_W...dows_7.9.4.zip

[jalyst]

Can you please suggests some devices & clarify what you mean here:
About HD audio a lot more is necessary, but depends the source, if is just bluray is very easy, otherwise it gets expensive.

I've already got a few ideas & devices I'm considering here...
Perhaps you agree/disagree with my or other users opinions?

Thank-you.

What are you trying to do? I need more details. If is about bluray just buy AnyDVD HD.

You're best off looking at my thread that I linked to.
Everything is explained there, that way I don't take this one OT.

I guess where I'm really at in that thread is here...
No one's actually addressed all the questions I have in that post.

Thanks!

[Gradius2]

You're best off looking at my thread that I linked to.
Everything is explained there, that way I don't take this one OT.

I guess where I'm really at in that thread is here...
No one's actually addressed all the questions I have in that post.

Thanks!

The only real way to do that is by using a real receiver/decoder, then it goes to 6 (5.1) or 8 (7.1) audio mono outputs to a professional (or semi-pro) audio capturer card or device (also 6 or 8 audio inputs). And yes, we are talking over $2k w/o software and computer here.

As for HDMI audio capture, there is no such thing, is only fixed to 2 channels @ 24-bit and 48kHz (should be 24-bit AFAIK, but you can check on on Intensity manual).

[jalyst]

Hmm, prolly best posting this response went my thread, but thanks anyway!

is only fixed to 2 channels @ 24-bit and 48kHz (should be 24-bit AFAIK, but you can check on on Intensity manual).

All hdmi capture cards (that can actually capture hdcp sources) I've seen so far, are locked to that*...
But others have explained the spec. needn't require that, that's just the way many of the cards are implemented thus far?

*it's usually 16bit, but may be 24 in the case of the intensity

[Gradius2]

Hmm, prolly best posting this response went my thread, but thanks anyway!

is only fixed to 2 channels @ 24-bit and 48kHz (should be 24-bit AFAIK, but you can check on on Intensity manual).

All hdmi capture cards (that can actually capture hdcp sources) I've seen so far, are locked to that*...
But others have explained the spec. needn't require that, that's just the way many of the cards are implemented thus far?

*it's usually 16bit, but may be 24 in the case of the intensity

It SHOULD be 24-bit, but on manual shows 16-bit only, and that's too bad.

It also mention about multichannel audio by using Premiere CS5, check it out the manual.

I cannot test or do anything, since I'm waiting for P67 to get fixed, or go for X58 and i990x, but that last option is WAY expensive!

[jalyst]

I'm investigating this as on option...
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/332189-HDCP-compliant-HDMI-capture-card?p=2059323&v...=1#post2059323
Or the colossus....

Either way I don't think I'll get much better than DD/DTS 5.1.

It's bizarre as the HDMI spec of course can handle much more than that.
But HDMI capture cards seem to be deliberately limited, even when HDCP is no longer in the way.

Maybe there is something out there that can do better than DD/DTS 5.1.
I haven't looked extensively, as I just don't have the time to waste.

[Gradius2]

I posted there, btw my solution is a lot better since is not limited to anything, I can do until 8 (eight) audio channels capable of until 192kHz @ 24-bit each channel. And not limited to any audio codec, this includes TrueHD and DTS HD, the down side is the price of course.

For video part I'll buy a HDCP killer when v1.4 gets ready (actually is on v1.3 only). No real point since Intensity is v1.3 too, but is always nice to have an up-to-date hardware.

[jalyst]

will your solution enable me to use my essence st as the dac?

[Gradius2]

will your solution enable me to use my essence st as the dac?

If it have 6 or 8 audio input, yes.

[jalyst]

Are you aware of any analogue capture devices that can capture DTS-MA/True-HD 8ch LPCM once it's in analogue form?

As suggested here, perhaps that's the only way I can go...
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=86986&view=findpost&p=745565

Capture the PS3/XB360's analogue output, then feed that back into my HTPC to be output again by my Essence.

[mufunyo]

jalyst, I've been following this for a while now and I'd like to ask-- could you please stop hijacking EVERY thread in the Capture forum with the same topic? I usually don't care if threads drift a bit but it seems you're intentionally turning multiple threads relating to HDMI capture into threads about your own problem.

I think it was settled a couple of posts ago that the Intensity Shuttle won't do what you want-- so why are you still posting here?

[jalyst]

In case you hadn't noticed, I've made several attempts in this thread to take the discussion directly to my thread.
Why others have chosen to respond here, I can't do anything about that, perhaps they felt it may be of interest to others.

[mufunyo]

I didn't ask for an explanation, just a kind plea to stop doing it. Thanks.

[jalyst]

Sure thing, just as soon as I get a response from gradius to my last post, cheers
@gradius it may be best to respond in my thread this time if you can, thanks!

[Gradius2]

Back to topic... P67 fixed MBs will be shipped on next week, so if you have Intensity Shuttle and planning to get a P67, please, let us know if works or not.

[Gradius2]

I decided to open this bastard thing, here is what I found out.

In general is a well made piece of hardware.

Main components:

Cypress (EZ-USB FX2LP USB Microcontroller - WTF! USB2?):
CY7C68013A-56LTXC
http://www.cypress.com/?rID=38801
http://www.cypress.com/?docID=27092


Main CPU:
XILINX
SPARTAN
XC3S1200E
http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds312.pdf


CIRRUS (Stereo Input/Output Audio):
CS4265
http://www.cirrus.com/cn/pubs/proDatasheet/CS4265_F2.pdf


ADV7393 BCPZ-3 (Composite, S-Video, Video Component & RGB):
http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADV7390_7391_7392_7393.pdf


ANALOG DEVICES (HDMI/DVI Transmitter or Output, 10-bit DACs):
AD9889B BSTZ-165
http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/AD9889B.pdf


ANALOG DEVICES (HDMI/DVI Receiver or Input and Component, 12-bit ADCs):
ADV7604 BBCZ-5P
http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADV7604.pdf


JT1 (JTAG)
10-pin Xlinx type (custom):

GND: 2,4,6,8,10
1: VREF (Power)
3: TMS (Test Mode Select)
5: TCK (Test Clock)
7: TDO (Test Data Output)
9: TDI (Test Data Input)

http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_JTAG_Bus.html

Gradius2

[Gradius2]

The AD9889B supports both S/PDIF and 8-channel I2S audio. Its high fidelity, 8-channel I2S can transmit either stereo or 7.1 surround audio at 192 kHz. The S/PDIF can carry stereo LPCM audio or compressed audio, including DTS®, THX®, and Dolby® Digital.

ADV7180 BCPZ (10-bit SDTV Video Encoder):
http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/ADV7180.pdf

CY22394FXC (3-PLL Serial Programmable Flash):
http://www.cypress.com/?docID=25181

Texas Instruments SN09I2024 04A6V7W (no idea looks like a processor).

Spansion FL032PIF (4MB flash).

[Gradius2]

My Asus U3S6 arrived today, installed on my old X38 computer, and I THINK is working.

"Think" because I see no live preview on Media Express 2.3, is that normal?

Btw, M.E. offer live preview?

The only thing I see is "No Remote" on top right, the manual sucks totally!

[Gradius2]

Nvm, is working great!

The manual sucks totally!