How to work with Muxer Settings?

[ellygirl95]

Hi. I am really new to this site and really new to subbing. I subbed my first video today, I made softsubs I saved them with both srt and ssa extention.
I have submux and I put the avi file with the srt it didn't work, but that is not a problem.
Then I put avi with ssa and it still didn't worked.
Then I put them again and tried to put some random numbers in the Muxer Settings.
I actually want to know on what base to put them.
I have no Idea what to write in the Frequency(ms) and Audio Preroll(ms) section.
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I wrote 5000 at frequency and 750000 at AP and I finally saw the video with subs but the audio wasn't in sync, it was faster than the video. I have no Idea what to do.
I need to put them together to post the video on youtube.
If this question already exist notice me please, I searched but I haven't seen it.
Anyways I hope I get help soon, I need to post the video as fast as possible.

[El Heggunte]

Hi there.

Give a try to AVI-Mux GUI.

As for YouTube, ...

are you sure they handle softsubs correctly???
I'm asking, because I really don't know...

P.S.:

BTW, the only "submux" I've ever known deals with .mpg files only,
apologies for my ignorance...

[ellygirl95]

Aw, I am trying it right now. My video is avi but it wont work T_T.
I am such a lucky person.

Hmm, I've talked to people whom did the same thing I am trying to and they said it worked just fine, just that it's not such good quality.

I got Submux with AutoGK and all the other stuff but AutoGK wont work because it shows 0fps , dunno why thought.
I made the softsubs with Subtitle workshop.


Thank you for answering~. I was waiting for someones advice like crazy. I am all new to subbing but I am willing to learn so bad ).

[MilesAhead]

If your player can handle divx type xsubs then use AviAddXSubs to add .srt subtitles to your .avi. On my Philips DVD players these look better than external .srt files. Unfortunately my WD set top box won't recognize them. AviAddXSubs is very easy to use. Just remember if you are not using Greek subtitles to change the default language setting to yours. It remembers settings between runs so once you set up your desired font sizes etc.. you are good from then on.


edit: I believe the only software player that will show these subs on Windows,once muxed in, is divx player from divx.com

[El Heggunte]

Aw, I am trying it right now. My video is avi but it wont work T_T.
I am such a lucky person.

Hmm, I've talked to people whom did the same thing I am trying to and they said it worked just fine, just that it's not such good quality.

I got Submux with AutoGK and all the other stuff but AutoGK wont work because it shows 0fps , dunno why thought.
I made the softsubs with Subtitle workshop.


Thank you for answering~. I was waiting for someones advice like crazy. I am all new to subbing but I am willing to learn so bad ).

**HOW** AVI-Mux GUI didn't work?
Dit it give you a big-fat error message or something ???

That's strange, really. I only know AMG "works best" with proper UTF-8 or Unicode subtitles. Subtitle Workshop "doesn't like" UTF-8, not to mention Unicode, so it would be better to open the .SRT or .SSA files in Notepad, or Wordpad, and save them as UTF-8 or Unicode. Also, regarding .SRTs, AMG expects "empty lines" only between the last line of an "entry" and the "time header" of the next entry ( hope I'm being clear enough ). Another possible issue: SW generates only a "skeleton" .SSA file, to which you should manually add the missing details

( http://avisynth.org.ru/docs/english/externalfilters/vsfilter.htm —
look for "SSA syntax" )

[ellygirl95]

@MilesAhead : Nope, It can't handle divx. I can open the subtitles with the video and it works great in BSplayer but I need to put them together for posting the video on youtube. Nope, not using greek subtitles, they are in english, made them yesterday. I just can't seem to be able to stick them with the video with any kind of program. I even watched tutorials on youtube. Anyways thanks for the advice, I will see what I can do .

@El Heggunte : Nope, No error. Weirdly it says it only accepts videos with extension avi, wav etc. But my video is Avi. I don't know why wont it work. I am using a video converter to convert my video and will try AVI-Mux GUI again. The subtitles are ok, I mean it doesn't says anything when I drop them in the program but it wont let me drop the video.
I just saved them as UTF-8.
Aw, didn't knew that, checking right now.

Anyways, my actual problem was, I have no idea what settings to put there. It works when putting the softsub with the avi, in submuxer but I must write correct numbers for everything to be in sync, and I don't know what those numbers represent.

Thanks for the advice , I am trying them right now ^-^.

[manono]

You can add selectable subs in SRT format to YouTube videos after they've been uploaded:

http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=100079

[ellygirl95]

I know about that. I am a youtuber for years now but I just don't like how it looks. We are starting a project of subbing MusicVideos and my friend does that but It looks ugly.
The esthetic matters a lot to me ^^.

[mikiem]

"I know about that. I am a youtuber for years now but I just don't like how it looks"

Rendering captions or text-based subs is up to the hardware or software playing the video -- you don't have a lot of control over it. Graphic subs OTOH (as with DVD/BD) are picture overlays -- within the limits of the spec, you control how they look. I'd think that giving them a text file means youtube renders the text, which means it's out of your hands. You can try using Flash captioning/subs, but AFAIK that's requires a .swf file since each caption/sub is an event & not part of the flv video you'd upload to youtube. Would it work to just do 2 versions of the video, one with hard subs that are part of the frame, one without?

[El Heggunte]

@El Heggunte : Nope, No error. Weirdly it says it only accepts videos with extension avi, wav etc. But my video is Avi. I don't know why wont it work. I am using a video converter to convert my video and will try AVI-Mux GUI again. The subtitles are ok, I mean it doesn't says anything when I drop them in the program but it wont let me drop the video.

Even weirder. Possible causes:

--- outdated version of AVI-Mux GUI ;

--- "bad" operating system ( == Vista or 7 ) for the "nice" application ;

--- your .AVI is an *incorrectly-structured* AVI ;

--- your .AVI is not a .AVI at all, please see what MediaInfo says about it.

We are starting a project of subbing MusicVideos and my friend does that but It looks ugly.
The esthetic matters a lot to me ^^.

Then you'd better:

1) use Aegisub to create the fanciest .ASSes ever ( pun intended == yes ) ;

2) use hard subs instead of soft ones.

Good-luck!