SSD for OS boot and HDD for storage?

[budz]

Cooler Master makes very good cases at reasonable prices. I own a CM 690 first generation case, CM 590 case that I use in my Intel Q9550 pc and a CM Elite 310 case for my AMD Quad pc. Lian Li cases are also good to use but they can be quite expensive. Cable management and airflow in a computer case are very important. Idiotic to buy high priced computer hardware and use a case that is built cheaply made and lacks good airflow and cable management options. If you're spending big bucks buy a aftermarket cpu cooler and case fans are also important. You have no budget and wanna spend big bucks so buy a better case than that crappy one you posted. Better yet just buy a prebuilt pc for the big bucks you're wanting to spend. Because you'll probably get a better deal that way. Nuff said.

[RabidDog]

Just to ramp the confusatron up to full.. You could also go for the new Seagate momentus XP which is a HHDD , a harddisk incorporating some SSD. It is supposed to be good for booting, whilst having a decent amount of space(250,320,500) and a much lower price tag than full SSD. Then there's the new(ish) Velociraptors but what about two CAviar black drives (performance line) with a good RAID controller ($$) in raid0. "black" drives seem to run about 33% more expensive than green or Blue,

[Eyecan'tcode]

If the 1156 I was thinking of getting cost more than the cheapes 1366 with no feature difference, then why not get the cheapes x58.

This is what has me confused. Why you think you would need to get the top of the line P55 board. The $170 GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P offers everything that the $210 GA-X58A-UD3R does except the triple channel memory. So what if it has Dual LAN, you don't have to use it. No way that I would spend $250 on a motherboard.

At this point, it's not about need; it's about want

Do you guys overclock your cpu? Sounds to me you are talking about it not being a good case for ocing. I don't overclock at all.
What do you guys think of this case? If you think its crappy, well That's what I have now
I didn't buy it because it was cheap in price. I bought it because I felt it was well ventilated, it looked nice, and it accomadated all my bay needs. I've had this case going on 4 years and never had a problem. When I build my system, thats it; I never plan to go back into it. Unless I get another optical drive or something.

Hey Budz, for some reason you seem to think I decided to get this case because its cheap. Why would I do that
My wife and I like the doors; kinda gives a cabinet feel
Now if you are saying its cheap compared to your case and other higher priced cases, then is that a fair comparison. Was that the point someone made about my comparison of the cheaper x58 and more expensive p55.

Now one thing I can say, the case I have now is a little larger than the Prudent Way case. No problem, I can return and get another. No big deal.

[budz]

You seem to like cheaply made cases....buy it then.
It's not even about overclocking....go look at different computer forums and see what types of cases people use for their pc's....I can tell you it ain't Apevia or Prudent Way....LMAO!

[Eyecan'tcode]

You seem to like cheaply made cases....buy it then.
It's not even about overclocking....go look at different computer forums and see what types of cases people use for their pc's....I can tell you it ain't Apevia or Prudent Way....LMAO!

I've also never been to a forum and heard anyone say that Apevia and/or Prudent Way cases were responsable for there pc frying either.

So basically, even if it gets the job done, keeps my components well cooled and maintained, you down me because other people don't buy this case

I've had the Apevia for going on 4yrs and have not had one component die on me, well other than a dvd drive, but who hasn't had a dvd or cd drive die. Besides, I've never heard anyone return there case because their dvd drive took a nose dive. There's always something better out there, but that doesn't mean something is crappy.

I just didn't see a need to bash, that's all I'm saying

[DarrellS]

My friend has an APEVIA X-TELSTAR-AL Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Power Supply that he paid almost $200 for and he is the one always complaining about not enough room inside his case. He has an I7-920 with stock cooling and his PC always runs around 48*C or higher at idle. He won't buy an aftermarket cooler to cool it down because it would be to much of a hassle to pull the board out to install it. If he would've searched for a better case when he built his machine then he wouldn't have this issue now.

His case is built a lot better than both of the cases that you listed. My case isn't that big but it's bigger than either of the cases you listed. I bought an extra 120mm fan for the front and moved the front 140mm fan to the side. It has a bootom on top of the case to turn the light on and off.

I'm not overclocking my PC now but I have in the past with no problem. I live in Arizona where it's 110+ this time of year so I have to keep the AC around 81F. My CPU is running at 33*C right now with four case fans (2x120mm and 2x140mm) and a CoolerMaster Hyper212 heatsink and 2000rpm, 120mm CPU fan.

Oh, my brother likes my case so much that we went down to Fry's Electronics yesterday and got him one and trashed the $60 Raidmax he had.

[Eyecan'tcode]

My friend has an APEVIA X-TELSTAR-AL Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Power Supply that he paid almost $200 for and he is the one always complaining about not enough room inside his case. He has an I7-920 with stock cooling and his PC always runs around 48*C or higher at idle. He won't buy an aftermarket cooler to cool it down because it would be to much of a hassle to pull the board out to install it. If he would've searched for a better case when he built his machine then he wouldn't have this issue now.

His case is built a lot better than both of the cases that you listed. My case isn't that big but it's bigger than either of the cases you listed. I bought an extra 120mm fan for the front and moved the front 140mm fan to the side. It has a bootom on top of the case to turn the light on and off.

I'm not overclocking my PC now but I have in the past with no problem. I live in Arizona where it's 110+ this time of year so I have to keep the AC around 81F. My CPU is running at 33*C right now with four case fans (2x120mm and 2x140mm) and a CoolerMaster Hyper212 heatsink and 2000rpm, 120mm CPU fan.

Oh, my brother likes my case so much that we went down to Fry's Electronics yesterday and got him one and trashed the $60 Raidmax he had.

CoolerMaster CM690 II Advanced on the way

Now if I can just make my damn mind up on what brand (intel or amd) and chipset I want to go with.

http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_ComparisonSheet.aspx?ProductID=3253,3385

[DarrellS]

You won't be sorry with that case. It doesn't have front firewire like the more expensive models but both MBs have rear firewire.

The tough decision is whether to go AMD or Intel. From the boards you compared, The GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P ($159.99 after rebate and free shipping) is closer to the GIGABYTE GA-890XA-UD3 ($147.86 with shipping) than the GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3P. It has the same type and number of slots. The AMD has 6 SATA III and the Intel has 2200 Extreme Memory Module. Everything else is pretty much the same.

[Eyecan'tcode]

One of the main cons I'm hearing about the p55 chipset is USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbps use PCI-Express lanes, and downgrade Primary PCI-Express slot to 8x if enabled. Although I don't currently have a usb 3.0 or SATA 6Gbps device, I'd likely be interested in the SATA 6Gbps ssd when they decrease in price. I don't recall AMD chipsets suffering from this limitation. What I am hearing about the AMD brand, is the AMD boards don't see the 6 core cpu out of the box. There are some tweaks that have to be done. What other cons does the AMD route present? I'm also hearing that both brands need tweaking (or ocing) in order to see 1600 memory. They will see the speed at some lower value until you tweak the bios; I didn't know that. Has this tweaking been known to cause problem later down the road? I've never been an overclocker, but it looks like I'm being forced to change

I almost bought the COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3. Very nice case. I'm totally second guessing myself.

[redwudz]

Maybe a bit late, but I may be able to answer some of your concerns. The mention of downgrading the PCI-E slot usually only comes up if you use the second PCI-E slot for your video card. Seems to be common with both AMD and Intel chipset MBs. I've also seen this mentioned with a X-1 socket.

Most newer AMD MBs recognize a six core CPU without a BIOS upgrade. The one in my computer details did.

If you are encoding with a codec that is able to use a six core CPU like H.264, the CPU is very fast.

Concerning recognizing PC1600 RAM correctly, many motherboards need to have that adjusted manually in BIOS. I don't believe PC1600 is part of the regular RAM spec that MBs have set in BIOS. But it only takes a few seconds to reset it. It's not a OC or tweak, just set the RAM speed manually, not a big problem.