Have the TY JVC discs shown up at retail yet? Will they?

[spiritgumm]

I bought a 100stack of TY 8x Dvd-R from Rima a month ago. I've used the brand for years because they're so reliable, but this was the first JVC bunch I've gotten. The first 7 out of 10 discs failed during verification. I burn with NERO and Dvddecrypter, and used two different brand burners (Philips and NEC). A slower burn speed didn't help. Bought a 50 stack of Verbatim locally - burned 50 without a problem.

[budz]

I bought a 100stack of TY 8x Dvd-R from Rima a month ago. I've used the brand for years because they're so reliable, but this was the first JVC bunch I've gotten. The first 7 out of 10 discs failed during verification. I burn with NERO and Dvddecrypter, and used two different brand burners (Philips and NEC). A slower burn speed didn't help. Bought a 50 stack of Verbatim locally - burned 50 without a problem.

Why even bother using NERO or DVD DECRYPTER to burn TY discs......use IMGBURN.

[spiritgumm]

missing the point. My burnware was working fine with TY discs before, but doesn't like the TY JVC. Burnware still works with Verbatim, so the implication is the TY JVC is the problem (whether it's some kind of incompatibility or whatever).

[[_chef_]]

missing the point. My burnware was working fine with TY discs before, but doesn't like the TY JVC. Burnware still works with Verbatim, so the implication is the TY JVC is the problem (whether it's some kind of incompatibility or whatever).

Ahm, well, gave me a good laugh.

It's absolutely nothing about your burning prog is general, but the discs quality counts overall and first.

[lordsmurf]

The first 7 out of 10 discs failed during verification.

Verification is unreliable. Lots of false results.

I burn with NERO

Not the best burning software anymore. What version? Version 6 is good for data.

used two different brand burners (Philips and NEC)

Philips = blah.
NEC = maybe good, depending on model.

A slower burn speed didn't help

There's really no reason that would help beyond a certain point. Specify what "slow" means.

so the implication is the TY JVC is the problem

You've jumped to a conclusion without any information to back up the hypothesis that new JVC TY is bad.
That's unscientific and therefore invalid logic. Please don't be one of "those guys" we see too often on forums.

[spiritgumm]

Sorry you guys haven't had good experience with the brand of burners and software I use. They work fine for me. As I said, the implication (not definitive proof) is it's the discs - either an incompatibility or a bad batch.
I emailed Rima, and they replied with a phone number. I thought it was for them, but was actually Microboards, the TY distributor. They said the only change in the media was the code - from TY to JVC - and one possible problem might be some burners not recognizing the new code. If not that, he suggested it might be a bad batch (while rare, he said it happens). The plastic wrapper said JVC, but I checked a disc and it shows the TY code. His conclusion was it could be just a bad batch of original stock.
Hey, no matter how safe planes are, someone has to be the victim when they crash. Just don't blame the victim when it happens.

[lordsmurf]

A "batch" of media is countless thousands of blanks, not a spindle of 50-100 discs. Bad batches are easy to spot. Having been no widespread rash of complaints, this isn't a bad batch scenario. Indeed, those are very rare. He probably said that just to make you go away. It's an easy cop-out excuse (sadly) accepted on certain forums. This isn't one of those places. Saying "bad batch" and "oh well" doesn't cut it. You're missing the true problem, and doomed for a repeat.

You've blamed the TY discs without adequate evidence.

On the other hand, Verbatim/MCC discs are better anyway, so you've traded up.

[spiritgumm]

You're missing the true problem, and doomed for a repeat.

sorry you feel this way.
Again (if you read my posts closely), I never wrote that the Microboards guy definitively claimed I had a bad batch (and I asked him what the scenario of that would be) - that was just one possibility. He suggested burning them in a different computer to see what happens. I'll give them to a friend to see what luck he has. Until then, I'll stick with Verbatim. Microboards make cd/dvd duplicators, so hopefully they have some expertise, and I didn't get the feeling he was hustling me off the phone.

[jman98]

As long as you put your faith in Nero and disc scans (notoriously unreliable) I wish you a lot luck, spiritgumm.

[AlecWest]

Had an interesting buying experience lately. For the longest time, I've gotten Taiyo Yuden DVD-R silvers. I have nothing against their "value-line" DVDs. I've just never tried them - and only order the premium 16x disks. And only once in ALL the times I ordered TY disks did I get what I thought was a bad set. But that was a long time ago (and it turned out to be a DVD burner going bad).

Anyhoo, I've been a SuperMediaStore customer for just as long and always put my orders through them ... until yesterday. Yesterday, I logged on as usual and it sent me to a page to "create a new account." I couldn't get off that page either. And no, I didn't change my browser type in the interim. I got SMS in chat to query. The rep found my long-standing account and suggested he change my password. He did ... but when I logged on, same scenario. Bottom line is that I could not even get to the shopping cart. It kept asking me to set up a new account.

So, the chat person said, "Sorry - your only option is to call in the order." That caught me the wrong way and I replied, "Well, I also have the option of making my order elsewhere - where my account information is remembered."

I'll probably go back to them on my very next order - to see if this computer glitch still exists. But in the meantime, I needed to order some new disks. I found them at MediaSupply.com - same premium JVC/TY 16x disks for the exact same price. SuperMediaStore said "free standard shipping." And MediaSupply said "free FedEx shipping" (most certainly ground). So, either way it was the same ultimate price.

Here's where the fun part comes in (grin). Whenever I order a cakebox of DVDs, I also order 100 plain white paper sleeves (with the plastic window). With SuperMediaStore, free shipping is included. But with MediaSupply, an $8.99 order of paper sleeves costs $10.61 to ship. So, I just ordered the disks with free FedEx shipping. But, I also sent an email to MediaSupply telling them their shipping charge for the sleeves was "cheesy" and "bad PR" for persons otherwise ordering disks.

This morning, to my surprise, I got an email from Barbara Streeter - the MediaSupply.com owner. She agreed with me - and is sending the sleeves with my disks at NO COST WHATSOEVER. But, she said next time, I should put a note with my order (including disks) and the $10.61 shipping would be waived.

But, I probably won't order sleeves from them (or SuperMediaStore) again. I found them cheaper at Amazon - 20 cents for 100 sleeves (plus $4.99 shipping) coming to a total of $5.19:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009WU65I/

... or, if you remove that last "slash" mark:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009WU65I (be sure to "refresh" browser afterward)

you'll see the same item offered for $5.19 (with free shipping, hehee). Six of one, half a dozen of the other (grin).

Regards,
J. Alec West

[MJA]

.20 and $5 shipping lol ebay style