Newest version of VirtualDubMod?

[Mdoodm1000]

Does anyone know what the newest official version of virtualdubmod is? I downloaded version 1.5.10.3, but it says up at the top "www.virtualdub-fr.org" is this an official release of the program? Most sites I've looked at say that version 1.5.10.2 is the newest version, but this one says that 1.5.10.3 is. So my question is which version is the latest official release of the program? thanks!

[Baldrick]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualdubmod/ is probably the latest "official".

[redwudz]

1.5.10.2 is the last official version, released Aug, 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualDubMod I use a modded version of that, 1.6.0.0 by Aud-X. There are a couple of other modded versions, such as 1.5.10.3 by other authors.

I still use VD Mod as I like the audio handling better than the newer VD versions, which I find a bit convoluted. But VD Mod is old, so some features, like MKV handling, are limited. As old as the mod version is, it's still fairly popular.

[Mdoodm1000]

Thanks guys! I think I'm gonna stick with the newest release. Now I have a few other questions. I recently updated my XviD codec from 1.2.1 and to 1.2.2, but when I encode videos and check them with mediainfo, it says that the XviD version is 1.2.1. Did I not install the codec correctly, or is medinfo reading it wrong?

[redwudz]

I have Xvid 1.2.2 also and MediaInfo reads it as 1.2.1. Since that version of Xvid is just a small upgrade, MediaInfo may not read the correct version, or the Xvid software is showing the wrong version. I did uninstall the 1.2.1 version, so it's not on my PC anymore. I wouldn't worry about the version reported if you only have the correct one installed.

[Calidore]

1.5.10.2 is the last official version, released Aug, 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualDubMod I use a modded version of that, 1.6.0.0 by Aud-X. There are a couple of other modded versions, such as 1.5.10.3 by other authors.

Sound like VideoHelp needs to create a VirtualdubModMod entry.

[redwudz]

The other mods are listed or available on our VD Mod tool page.

[DarrellS]

1.6.0.0 Aud-X was the last release and the only version that I have on my PC although I hardly ever use it anymore. The only reason that I did use it was for Aud-X 5.1 mp3 and I no longer use that, opting for 5.1 ac3 instead (or 5.1 aac if I'm encoding to H264 and then I use something other than Virtualdub).

VirtualdubMod 1.6.0.0 is four years old. Fcchandler stopped updating VirtualdubMod (and his other mods) when Avery Lee began work on the newer versions of Virtualdub since they incorporated everything that he used in his mods and concentrated his work on creating plugins to work with Virtualdub.

IMO, all of the Virtualdub mods are obsolete.

[AlanHK]

since they incorporated everything that he used in his mods

Not quite.

I use it solely because of the built in Avisynth editor.
Seems the official VDub people refuse to incorporate that.
AvsP is great for intensive AVS scripting, but it doesn't play videos or audio, only shows them frame by frame. VDub with the AVS editor is good for simple mods to scripts and checking them.


There is a "patched" VDub at
http://tongari.at/
which is VirtualDub-1.7.8+ all VDubmod patches, including the AVS editor.
So that's rather more up to date than any other version I know of.

[DarrellS]

Here is another modded Virtualdub that I just found on the Virtualdub forums.

http://vdubapngmod.sourceforge.net/

VirtualDub APNG Mod 1.9.9.1

This version lets you load Animated PNG in logo filter.


If you got involved over at the Virtualdub forum, you might be able to talk Phaeron and fcchandler into implementing the AVS editor into the next version of Virtualdub.


The problem with mods is that nobody keeps them updated.

[AlanHK]

If you got involved over at the Virtualdub forum, you might be able to talk Phaeron and fcchandler into implementing the AVS editor into the next version of Virtualdub.

When I said they'd "refused" to do that, I had checked it out.
They just don't even want to consider it. For example:

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=18625

Sorry, but I'm afraid I don't have an interest in turning VirtualDub into a script editor for Avisynth.

I saw that response every time anyone suggested it.

[Gavino]

AvsP is great for intensive AVS scripting, but it doesn't play videos or audio, only shows them frame by frame.

You can also (as I'm sure you know) launch an external player of your choice from within AvsP.
And, with some additional macros, you can get it to play from AvsP's current frame position, rather than starting at the beginning.

[AlanHK]

AvsP is great for intensive AVS scripting, but it doesn't play videos or audio, only shows them frame by frame.

You can also (as I'm sure you know) launch an external player of your choice from within AvsP.
And, with some additional macros, you can get it to play from AvsP's current frame position, rather than starting at the beginning.

I know, but the "additional macros" are pretty recent developments. I haven't tried them, to be honest. If it works smoothly it might suffice.

I've just got into the habit of using VDubMod as the default to launch and modify AVS scripts for several years now.

Since this Japanese hacker seems to have merged the AVS editor into recent VDub, (my link above) it can't really be technically hard for the actual developers. Is it some personality conflict that makes them reject this idea?

[MaxSt]

Here is another modded Virtualdub that I just found on the Virtualdub forums.

http://vdubapngmod.sourceforge.net/

VirtualDub APNG Mod 1.9.9.1

This version lets you load Animated PNG in logo filter.

Yes, and it can create APNG from video, obviously. And it can read APNG/MNG.

[DarrellS]

If you got involved over at the Virtualdub forum, you might be able to talk Phaeron and fcchandler into implementing the AVS editor into the next version of Virtualdub.

When I said they'd "refused" to do that, I had checked it out.
They just don't even want to consider it. For example:

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=18625

Sorry, but I'm afraid I don't have an interest in turning VirtualDub into a script editor for Avisynth.

I saw that response every time anyone suggested it.

I can kinda see his point. He has taken Virtualdub in a direction where you should only need Avisynth as a last resort. With all the input plugins and smart rendering, he's made it easy to edit clips without having to re-encode the video. With Avisynth, you have to re-encode the whole video.

I always wondered why Avisynth didn't have their own GUI anyway. I had mo idea what it was when I first heard of it or how in the world you were supposed to use it. It took me a while just to figure out the basics and that's all I know how to do (open video files that VDub won't open to work on).

Yes, and it can create APNG from video, obviously. And it can read APNG/MNG.

I think I'll download this one and play with it.

[Gavino]

I always wondered why Avisynth didn't have their own GUI anyway.

The simple answer is that Avisynth itself is not a program you use directly - it's not even a program at all, it's basically a DLL that adds functionality to Windows, making it treat AVS scripts as video files.

However, there is clearly a benefit in having a dedicated editor for AVS scripts, with a GUI to display the result of 'executing' the script. AvsP does that admirably.

[AlanHK]

I can kinda see his point. He has taken Virtualdub in a direction where you should only need Avisynth as a last resort. With all the input plugins and smart rendering, he's made it easy to edit clips without having to re-encode the video. With Avisynth, you have to re-encode the whole video.

No, you can do a lot more than that with Avisynth.
I've got a batch file encoding 10 videos at the moment that uses a bunch of Avisynth scripts that I generated with another batch file, tweaked with AvsP, and ran through VDub to check they were okay. I like to automate things, not have to be hands on at every step.

I still don't understand the opposition.
I don't see it as a competition. I use both, and I don't see any need to disparage one or the other.

I always wondered why Avisynth didn't have their own GUI anyway.

Because you can run it via scripts that don't need a GUI, and are far more efficient that way.
E.g., I have a simple command line that pipes the audio from a folder of AVS files through Aften to make a set of AC3 files.

[Placio74]

...I downloaded version 1.5.10.3, but it says up at the top "www.virtualdub-fr.org" is this an official release of the program? ...

Unofficial. However...
This edition contains latest official patches (from VDM 1.5.10.2 b2542 by Cyrius) and few updated libraries (for Matroska, OGG and Vorbis). Does not contain any new features and any new patches (Cyrius patches are from 2006).

...I recently updated my XviD codec from 1.2.1 and to 1.2.2, but when I encode videos and check them with mediainfo, it says that the XviD version is 1.2.1. Did I not install the codec correctly, or is medinfo reading it wrong?

MediaInfo read bitstream version info, which is same for Xvid 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 (XviD0050).
I don't see any other way to read/identify used Xvid version in encoded video.

...Fcchandler stopped updating VirtualdubMod (and his other mods) ...

Of course You mean VirtualDub-MPEG2. I do not recall that fccHandler participated in VDM project...
Plugins (with VD-MPEG2 features) for current VD are sufficient - no need to continue a separate mod version.

...There is a "patched" VDub at
http://tongari.at/
which is VirtualDub-1.7.8+ all VDubmod patches, including the AVS editor.

Lack many features of VDM, so probably not all but only some patches. Unfortunately... another abandoned mod...?

[AlanHK]

...There is a "patched" VDub at
http://tongari.at/
which is VirtualDub-1.7.8+ all VDubmod patches, including the AVS editor.

Lack many features of VDM, so probably not all but only some patches. Unfortunately... another abandoned mod...?

I was probably optimistic in saying "all". I should have said it has the ones I use, so it does it for me though.

The docs are in Japanese and it seems to have been inactive for a few years.