adding dts audio stream to DVD folder

[medo_256]

does any one know if DVD Lab Pro can produce projects with custom size (bigger that DVD9 specification) coz every time i make larger project it plays only the size corresponding to DVD9 specification,i don't want to transcode the source video file to make it fit into dvd i'll use DVDFAb to divide the DVD folder later

[guns1inger]

I don't believe it can, mainly because it expects that you have encoded your assets correctly in the first place.

[tinker]

DVD Lab will not compile project out of DVD specification.
If you do not want to compress the video, you can split the file and at the end go to a menu which will say, for example, "Insert Disc2".
Second disc will have your other part. You do not need a menu on second disc, just link FIRST PLAY and TITLE directly to your video.

[medo_256]

you mean that i should have prepared my asset to fit before starting with dvd lab? i'm asking so because i used to use convertxdvd which can produce dvd folders with size out of dvd specification,but dvd lab completes the compilation successfully and produces dvd folder larger than dvd limits (12GB) the problem is when i play this dvd folder it doesn't complete playing till the end i.e if the title consist of 34 chapters it plays only 27 why that?

[guns1inger]

Yep. DVD Lab Pro authors DVD spec structures, which includes having them the correct size. It expects that you have you assets correctly prepared to do this. If that means encoding them to the correct size or splitting them first, then that is what you have to do.

[medo_256]

yeah , but i guess encoding files to the right size (in terms of DVD specifications) always means low quality

[medo_256]

you know i always find that convertxdvd is the best tool to deal with large files especially with dts streams ,coz when using AVStoDVD it produces better mkv-to-m2v files but also larger and always out of dvd specifications ,in the end i'll have to transcode it to to fit which convertxdvd make in one step ,don't mention the dts streams problem in AVStoDVD.i know that AVStoDVD is popular and powerful than convertx ,but convertx is more time-saving and reliable in case of large mkv files .

[manono]

yeah , but i guess encoding files to the right size (in terms of DVD specifications) always means low quality

That depends on the source, how long it is and how hard to compress. In general though, I'd say that's wrong. Sure, it won't be of the quality of a Hi-Def source, but you can make a darned good looking DVD from that source.

...coz when using AVStoDVD it produces better mkv-to-m2v files but also larger and always out of dvd specifications

Not true at all. Why blame the software when it's the person using it who's at fault?

[medo_256]

what do u mean by wrong ,and what fault comes from what person?i compared the bitrate from convertx and the bitrate of AVStodvd after the whole process pretty much the same keep in your mind the size of the dts stream which is big...so by saving space for dts stream plus video stream i'll get the same result using convertx or avstodvd but i save more time using convertx i'm not focusing on video quality only ,sound quality as important as video quality to me and no one can deny that dts beats dolby digital and it's all up to viewer and keep in mind that the whole thread about dts sound and i don't judge avstodvd or convertx i just explain my experience for any user consider dts audio in mind if any thing to blame here is the limitations of dvd specification not some software producer ,again what i'm trying to say for any one consider 100% dts audio quality he/she will have to sacrifice some of the video quality if he/she just stick to DVD5 or DVD9 or he/she will spend a lot of time before the process completed (doing it the hard way) again i'm not judging software producers coz i think you got me wrong i like avstodvd but convertx can produce pretty darned dvds as well any one likes to convert hi-def vidoes to dvd the hard way go for avstodvd (no dts) and you will get better quality any one likes dts sound i recommend convertx if he/she is busy and time is the essence for him/her ...i guess my point of view is clear now

[guns1inger]

I have used AVStoDVD to convert 100s of files and it is never over-sized or out of spec. I find ConvertXtoDVD produces grossly undersized, and therefore lower quality, output as a rule, not the exception. I only use ConvertXtoDVD if nothing else works, or if I need to convert something very quickly and quality isn't as important.

If you want to produce two DVDs for a given movie, instead of one, then edit the Avisynth scrip that AVStoDVD produces and add a Trim() statement so that you encode it in two parts, then author.

However I have never had AVStoDVD produce oversized or out of spec output, regardless of source (and that includes 720p/DTS material).

If you are trying to shoe-horn out of spec material into a DVD structure then don't be surprised if it won't go.

[medo_256]

how that and avstodvd can't handle dts,may be u didn't do 1080p but thanks for the trim tip

[_MrC_]

The only way to produce a 100% Muxman compliant DTS stream is to downgrade resolution to 16 or 20 bit

Are you saying that Muxman won't accept 24 bit DTS audio as input? I don't know as I don't have any with which to test. He doesn't say much on his page about supported input:

DTS - 48K sampling rate, 768Kbps or 1536Kbps, 5.1 channels.

http://www.mpucoder.com/Muxman/versions.shtml

If you're right, then yes, this should be brought to his attention.

Herebelow the mpucoder reply to this issue:

MuxMan checks DTS sources for compatability with DVD-Video (SD), you can see the criteria here. DTS-ES and 96K are not valid for DVD.

And I would add DTS-HD as well. Thus, if an authoring sw muxes DTS-ES/96/HD tracks, it creates a not 100% compliant DVD-Video.



Bye

[medo_256]

in my case i added dts 1536Kbps,48khz,24bit 5.1 and muxman rejected it

[medo_256]

are there any tool to split m2v files without re-encoding?

[guns1inger]

You will have to cut your audio at the same point. Look at the mpeg-2 editors in the Tools section. Mpeg2cut2 might be able to do it.

[manono]

Herebelow the mpucoder reply to this issue:

MuxMan checks DTS sources for compatability with DVD-Video (SD), you can see the criteria here. DTS-ES and 96K are not valid for DVD.

MPUCoder is a pretty smart fellow, for sure. Did you point him to my 2 quotations and links which state clearly that 24 bit DTS audio is OK for DVD-Video?

[manono]

are there any tool to split m2v files without re-encoding?

DGIndex, among other tools, can split M2Vs. I use Head3he to split audio files.

[medo_256]

is there any tool to demux subtitles to .sub or .srt unlike .sup?

[manono]

If by SUB you mean VobSubs (IDX/SUB), then VobSub Configure is good. It's included in the VobSub package. If it's the text based SUB, then you have to OCR with something like SubRip. Same with SRT subs, although there are automatic OCRs such as the one in DVDSubEdit. SUP can be converted automatically and instantly to VobSubs using SubtitleCreator.

[medo_256]

here it goes, i got an mkv file with subtitles i demuxed (using tsMuxerGUI) the audio stream and the subtitles the resulting subtitle .sup is not acceptable by dvd lab pro coz it only accepts .srt or .sub and so on so in order to prepare the assets for dvd lab i got the video and the audio but not the subtitles coz it's .sup ...any ideas here?i mean is there any tool i can use to demux the sub titles from the original mkv file into .sub ?

[medo_256]

problem solved mkvextract gui

[medo_256]

how can i join multiple mkv files into one file ?

[guns1inger]

mkvmerge

[medo_256]

does stretching and cropping reduce the quality of the resulted video?

[manono]

Unless you reencode to some lossless format, yes. Maybe a lot, maybe not noticeable.

[medo_256]

yes , i will encode an HD mkv file to DVD quality (from 1920x800 to 720x480) and i'll remove the black bars padding and stretch it vertically then horizentally to make it fit to full screen view,does that affect the resulting video?

[manono]

Yes, considerably. You'll be chopping off the sides (or giving it a very bad aspect ratio, you weren't clear which) and lowering the resolution from high def to standard def.