How can I edit chapters on DVDs?

[Putts]

I rip commercial DVDs using AnyDVD & CloneDVD. I burn a copy of the main movie. Recently I have run across some DVDs that place all the advertising at the beginning of the DVD & the content of the DVD in one Chapter. Is there an inexpensive software package that would allow me to split the chapter so that I can burn the DVD after all the commercials? Thanks

[RowMan]

I believe you mean the advertisements and the main movie are in the same TITLE. If this is the case, you can easily edit out what you don't want using the RE-AUTHOR mode in DVD Shrink. It's free.

[geneaum]

Not sure if this is what you need but listed in the new HowTo Guides section of this website (top left) is a tutorial on Womble, which appears to do what you need.

[Putts]

Rowman: Thank you very much for your reply. But when I look at the file on CloneDVD it just lists one chapter (if there is more than one chapter I can delete the file having the advertisements) but I have run across several DVDs where everything is in Chapter 1, when I look at it using CloneDVD . Thanks again for your reply.

[V Bot]

What about VOBblanker or PGC Edit?

[Putts]

geneaum- Thank you for your reply. I think you will quickly find out I am new to all this. I have looked at several Womble products but I cannot find one that does what I want - perhaps I have not looked in the correct place. I have run across several DVDs where everything is in Chapter 1. So I think what I am looking for is a program that will edit a Video_Ts IFO file & will save/export it in the same format. I found one Womble product that edited the file just fine but exported the edited file as an MPEG. If I am looking in the wrong place of the How To Guides I'd appreciate some further guidance. Thanks again for your reply

[RowMan]

I just looked at a tutorial on the SlySoft CloneDVD site. There should be a cutting tool that allows you to edit out anything you want from a Main Movie rip using CloneDVD. The video tutorials are accessible from their homepage. It looks pretty easy, but I have never used CloneDVD myself.

[Putts]

V Bot: Thanks for your reply. I am not familiar with the programs you mention. I'll have to do some research on them. Thanks again.

[Putts]

Rowman: I'll look st CloneDVD aain. Maybe I missed something. When I have used it, it just allowed me to delete chapters but not part of a chapter. I should also mention I am trying to burn a copy that has the menus removed. I think CloneDVD calls it "Copy DVD Titles". But I'll check their web site again. Thank you.

[RowMan]

From what I gathered the cutting tool is made available when you actually preview the title. The button in the preview mode has a little picture of scissors on it.

[manono]

I find it a little hard to believe the entire DVD consists of a single chapter. It's probably not even a single PGC/Title. It may possibly be a single VTS, but without more info it's hard to tell.

Nor can I tell if you want to fix the DVDs you've already created or if you just want to be able to do your future ones properly. You should have been looking for a way to get rid of the warnings/previews/garbage to begin with.

So yes, if starting over it's a simple matter to get rid of whatever you don't want. RowMan seems to have found a way using your methods (inferior though they be - people actually pay money for CloneDVD?).

And for already created DVDs, it's easy to remove stuff and then process the DVD again with VobBlanker (Or PGCEdit). Here's a guide:

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides/VobBlanker/prevcut/index.php

And if it's separate Title/PGC, just highlight it in the lower screen and hit the 'Blank' button to the right. Similar things can be done using PGCEdit by highlighting the PGC you want and hitting the 'Kill Playback' button. They won't be physically removed (and won't need further processing) but only skipped over.

[Supreme2k]

Actually, manono, there are a few "artsy" DVDs that have no chapter breaks, such as David Lynch's Mullholland Drive. This may not be the case here, but it's still a probability.

[manono]

Thanks, Supreme2k, I didn't know that. So weirdo Lynch did that on purpose, did he, so you couldn't start his movie in the middle or easily skip through it? Even if true, wouldn't the other crap, warnings, extras, previews, etc., be in different titlesets?

[lordsmurf]

I have some "how to draw..." series discs (anime, for example) that is one big video -- no chapters, no menus, etc.
You can't even FF the thing, because it's been dumped into the firstplay with a PUO.

[Putts]

manono: Thanks for your reply. Please believe that the DVD is all in one chapter. I tried your suggestion to use VobBlanker without success. I tried a tutorial at:
http://www.dvdr-digest.com/articles/article_vobblanker_page1.html and tried the tutorial you listed at:
http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides...vcut/index.php. In both cases I only get 2 Title Sets: VIDEO_TS_VOB which has 0 Titles and is 0 Bytes in size. And I get: VTS_01_*.VOB which has 1 Title and is 3199 Mb in size. The PGCs show: 01 OneSeq. And I cannot edit this to remove the advertisements. I would appreciate any advice.

[lordsmurf]

VIDEO_TS_VOB = menu or nothing
VTS_01_*.VOB = the main movie asset in 1 file

01 OneSeq - confirmed no chapters.

Edit in Womble: http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/womble-mpeg-vcr-1880.html

[Putts]

manono and RowMan: CloneDVD can only edit one chapter at a time. For example, if a DVD has several chapters, chapter 1 can be edited by REMOVING it. But CloneDVD doesn't allow for only a portion of a chapter to be removed. So I cannot use CloneDVD to edit the example I gave which only has one chapter. Also I have a number of DVDs where the advertisements are in Chapter 1 but the credits for the movie also START in Chapter 1 and CONTINUE into Chapter 2. So if I edit the DVD by removing Chapter 1 I will also lose part of the credits which is information that I want to keep.

[Putts]

lordsmurf: Thank you for your reply, but Womble only seems to produce an MPEG output. I need an output as a Video_TS IFO. I think its referred to as DVD-5.

[lordsmurf]

You're confused.

You only get a VIDEO_TS folder when the video is authored. This happens after editing, after re-author.
The .VOB files holds all video/audio, plus subs and nav data as needed.
The .IFO file is nav info. .BUP is backup copy of nav.
For more details, see this recent post: http://www.tvpreservation.com/forum/showthread.php/newbie-need-advice-10509.html?p=52077#post52077

[Putts]

Well, I’m easily confused!



Let me try to clarify what I’ve been doing. Basically I’ve taken commercial DVDs which I’ve purchased and stripped the menus, advertisements, etc. This leaves me with what I would call the main movie – a DVD that I can pop into my player & it will start playing with having to deal with menus or advertisements. I started by using DVD Decrypter & DVD Shrink. But since DVD Decrypter has not been updated for about 5 years the encryption used by many DVD firms has outstripped DVD Decrypter’s capabilities. So I presently use AnyDVD (it is upgraded from time to time to keep up with new encryption techniques) and Clone DVD2.

In another post I mentioned the 2 scenarios I’m faced with: 1. DVDs that only have one chapter. 2. DVDs that start the credits in Chapter 1 and continue them in Chapter 2. In both cases I need to be able to edit a chapter & only retain a portion of the chapter. For my purposes it looks like Womble MPEG-VCR would work. Would you agree? Would using the tutorial “Guide for MPEG-VCR” give me a file that I can burn to a DVD? Is the $19 Womble’s price.

Thanks for the info. Sorry this post ran so long.

[Putts]

lordsmurf: I downloaded the trial version of MPEG-VCR, but when I try to open the file, per your instructions I get the VIDEO_TS folder & the 4 files it contains: VTS_01_1 thru VTS_01_4??? I don't think this program will do it. I'd certainly appreciate some help.

[CactusMan]

You need DvdRemake, import the dvd files (folder), select the proper "PGC" in tree located in left, skip to the time you want to cut, right click mouse in the video preview use "cut to here". Export to a new DVD in a new folder. With this little app you can edit a lot on a DVD. Give a try.

[manono]

And since VobBlanker easily allows you to cut within a chapter/cell (and is free, unlike DVDRemake), I have no idea what the problem could be. You mark in and out the parts to be cut, and then process it. For DVDs with multiple chapters/cells you then do the same to a different cell before processing. Alternatively, you can do similar things using DVDShrink in reauthor mode. If this thing has menus, you can get them back by following this guide:

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides/VobBlanker/adding_menus/index.htm

If you'd like to try DVD Shrink to cut out the stuff you don't want, this guide might help:

An intermediate guide to v3.1 "Re-author" mode. It includes making a compilation of titles from the same DVD, changing compression settings, using "Start/End" to crop a title and the use of "Deep analysis".

http://www.dvdshrink.info/reauthor_intermediate.php

[overloaded_ide]

I support the reply to use DVDShrink and re-author the DVD.
You go into Re-author part of the program, drag in your movie title from the right box to the left box, select it and then you can edit cut in and cut out.
In the edit preview move forward to where the movie starts to play, mark in, go to end and move backwards to where you want the movie to end and markout. Now you will have only the movie part you selected to keep and nothing before or after it.

Since your files on Hard drive have already been ripped there should not be any copy protections on them and DVDshrink should work on any movie for you even though program is no longer updated.

You don't have to shrink the DVD if you don't want too, I use this methode at times to make a movie only disk and cut off credits and ending stuff I don't want as well as the studio logos and opening things I don't want.

[RowMan]

manono and RowMan: CloneDVD can only edit one chapter at a time. For example, if a DVD has several chapters, chapter 1 can be edited by REMOVING it. But CloneDVD doesn't allow for only a portion of a chapter to be removed. So I cannot use CloneDVD to edit the example I gave which only has one chapter. Also I have a number of DVDs where the advertisements are in Chapter 1 but the credits for the movie also START in Chapter 1 and CONTINUE into Chapter 2. So if I edit the DVD by removing Chapter 1 I will also lose part of the credits which is information that I want to keep.

Here's the button for the editing tool. Looks like you can clip out a portion of anything you want...

[Putts]

manono: Thanks for your reply. I tried using DVD Shrink & was finally successful!! Although using DVD Shrink was VERY slow in comparison to what I've gotten used to with CloneDVD - over an hour with DVD Shrink compared to 10 minutes with CloneDVD!! I don't know why it didn't work with VobBlanker. When I have more time I'll try VobBlanker again. Thanks again for your help.

[Putts]

overloaded_ide; As you can see from my previous post DVD Shrink worked for me only VERY slow. Thanks for your reply!!

[Putts]

RowMan: Thanks for your reply. I have used the edit function in CloneDVD many times. Since you don't have CloneDVD you may not realize that went you click on the scissors icon a narrow window opens up right below the slider. The window shows a horizontal line representing the length of the movie. The horizontal line is then broken up by short vertical lines representing the chapters. For the example I used there are only 2 vertical lines representing the beginning & end of the movie. I tried moving the slider to just edit part of the chapter but it doesn't work. The result is the same as if I had not moved the slider, i.e. the movie still had all the advertisements I'm trying to get rid of. If I had the time to learn how to attach screen shots I could send a more elegant explanation. But I hope you can understand the explanation I did give. Thanks again. I really appreciate it!!

[Putts]

CactusMan: Thanks for your reply, but as you can see from my previous post DVD Shrink fixed my problem. I would be interested in trying DVDRemake. But they want $24.95 just for a trial version. That is not much money but I could spend that money and find out within a short time that I have wasted it. But thanks again for your reply. I'll keep DVDRemake in mind.