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  1. Can anyone give me some recommendations as to which DVD ripping software is the best for ripping the latest DVDs? The reason why I'm asking is because I've just bought some DVDs from HMV in the last few months and have not had much success in ripping them to my PC Hard Drive.

    I don't want to use the originals and risk scratching them and then having to buy another original if the first original becomes unplayable - not if I can help it. All I want to do is to make a backup copy and use the copy all of the time while leaving the original stored safely away somewhere.

    I know that DVD Decrypter does not work anymore and hasn't done for about 2-3 years now but it used to have a 100% success rate. I've been using DVD Fab HD Decrypter as a substitute since then but have had nothing but problems with it since I started to use it. Most of the newer DVDs manufactured in the last month will not even move past the "Open DVD Source" stage of the rip process or they get past this stage and then fail halfway through the rip process - this happens with the latest version of DVD Fab and happens way too often in my opinion.

    DVD43 is completely useless with the newer DVDs.

    So I then tried AnyDVD and that seems to have a 100% success rate just like DVD Decrypter used to. Only problem is that AnyDVD is Trialware and can only be used for 21 days. I think the only way to continue using the trial after 21 days is to re-format the PC.

    So my question is; what is the best free DVD ripping software that can successfully decrypt all of the newer DVDs? I'm talking about DVDs manufactured within the last month or so. Any ideas?
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    I know of no reason why DVDFabDecrypter doesn't work for you when it works for so many others.
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    The free version runs some months behind the pay version on new titles, so you can either pay up and rip your new discs, or wait patiently for the fixes to come down to the free version
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  4. So there is no free software out there that will rip the latest DVDs?

    I don't understand, you pay for the DVD and all you want is to make sure that nothing happens to it. I live with young children you see and as you can imagine being that young one of your pastimes is to destroy anything in sight. I'm just trying to protect my purchase.

    We should be allowed to make a free backup of purchased original DVDs. I don't think there should be any copy protection on them in the first place because of the aforementioned factor.

    Looks like I'm going to have to start buying these new DVDs 2-3 months after release either that or find some way of finagling the AnyDVD trial.
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  5. In one of my computers I have an old NEC ND-3520A DVD drive. With many new discs it hangs and never even tells Windows there's a drive in the bay. So DVD Fab never even sees those discs. I just use another computer with a different DVD drive.
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  6. Off-topic, but I don't understand how they can keep updating/complexifying copy protections and still expect the discs to play in regular DVD players...
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    Off-topic, but I don't understand how they can keep updating/complexifying copy protections and still expect the discs to play in regular DVD players...
    Sometimes the discs don't play in some players.
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    Originally Posted by soneman View Post
    So there is no free software out there that will rip the latest DVDs?

    I don't understand, you pay for the DVD and all you want is to make sure that nothing happens to it. I live with young children you see and as you can imagine being that young one of your pastimes is to destroy anything in sight. I'm just trying to protect my purchase.
    This may be an insane, radical new idea, but maybe you could try keeping them out reach of the property destroyers?
    I never let my kids touch the DVDs until they were old enough and responsible enough to handle them with care.


    Originally Posted by soneman View Post
    We should be allowed to make a free backup of purchased original DVDs. I don't think there should be any copy protection on them in the first place because of the aforementioned factor.
    Part of copyright protection is showing due diligence in protecting the product. Even though copy protection gets cracked fairly quickly, at least the companies can report that they tried. Otherwise, the "unlocked front door" argument is used for illegal copying.

    You can still make free backups, but you have to wait or pay if you want to backup (some, not all of) the latest releases. Same thing with any software. You want to get the business standard, like MS Office, you have to pay. You can get OpenOffice for free.
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    DVDFab Passkey - works like AnyDVD, is free right now
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by creamyhorror View Post
    Off-topic, but I don't understand how they can keep updating/complexifying copy protections and still expect the discs to play in regular DVD players...
    Sometimes the discs don't play in some players.
    This is correct. The copy protection method most in use now uses deliberately placed bad sectors on the disc and exploits a difference in the way that Windows reads discs vs. how they are read in DVD players. Basically the DVD player isn't smart enough most of the time to be bothered with the bad information on disc but Windows is because it logically doesn't expect someone to do that deliberately.

    Anyway, if the original poster wants a solution that works all the time, he needs to buy DVDFab. If you buy it, I think updates are free. It costs too much time and effort to keep updating rippers to deal with new methods of copy protection and somebody has to be paid to do it. If you want a free solution, then you have to accept that the free ones are out of date. I think AnyDVD is also updated regularly but I know less about that one and it's not free either.
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    Originally Posted by Supreme2k View Post
    This may be an insane, radical new idea, but maybe you could try keeping them out reach of the property destroyers?
    Agree.
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  12. Yeah, I've never dropped a DVD or placed one in the tray askew and had the drive scratch it. I don't see why everybody can't be so perfect. And I just love all those PUO's that are on commercial DVDs. You should too. And man those ads on Disney DVDs?! I can't wait to watch them every time I put a DVD in the player!
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Yeah, I've never dropped a DVD or placed one in the tray askew and had the drive scratch it. I don't see why everybody can't be so perfect. And I just love all those PUO's that are on commercial DVDs. You should too. And man those ads on Disney DVDs?! I can't wait to watch them every time I put a DVD in the player!
    Those are good reasons to want to back up discs.

    "Because my kid eats them" is not.
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  14. I forgot to mention that warm fuzzy feeling I get from the FBI warning on every disc.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    I forgot to mention that warm fuzzy feeling I get from the FBI warning on every disc.
    On the Clerks II DVD, Kevin Smith starts rambling about how he loves to skip to the video that shows who authored the disc -- a comment made in jest, of course.
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  16. You forgot menus, most (nearly all?) are just a waste of time, episode discs aside. And asinine director/actor commentaries and "making of" videos just taking up space.

    Agreed, though, adverts, PUOs and warnings are reason enough to reauthor and backup.
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    Originally Posted by mgh View Post
    DVDFab Passkey - works like AnyDVD, is free right now
    Yep. Try this. Should handle all newer ecryptions too. With it enabled you can use the old free dvddecrypter to rip those dvds. And like mgh said, it's free right now while it's beta software. Eventually it will go trialware like dvdfab.
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  18. One thing that continually comes to my mind is how very few people ever wanted to copy (ahem backup) their vhs tapes !

    Funny how a whole industry has been created from a change in format.

    Kids used to stick their food/grubby fingers into the vhs slot or unwind the tapes, or in those days was there actually discipline to ensure that didn;t happen so much.

    DVD FAB does not seem to issue as many updates as anydvd, wonder why?

    I would pay for anydvd and use imgburn.
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    Originally Posted by victoriabears View Post
    One thing that continually comes to my mind is how very few people ever wanted to copy (ahem backup) their vhs tapes !

    Funny how a whole industry has been created from a change in format.

    Kids used to stick their food/grubby fingers into the vhs slot or unwind the tapes, or in those days was there actually discipline to ensure that didn;t happen so much.
    They (I) did.
    My first VCR cost $600 Canadian when a dollar was a dollar.
    To backup a tape required another VCR - which wasn't really realistic:that doesn't apply today - but not relevant to the topic.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Yeah, I've never dropped a DVD or placed one in the tray askew and had the drive scratch it. I don't see why everybody can't be so perfect. And I just love all those PUO's that are on commercial DVDs. You should too. And man those ads on Disney DVDs?! I can't wait to watch them every time I put a DVD in the player!
    Those may be all well and good, but the OP only listed "children" as a reason for backup. I gave an alternate solution. There's perfect, then there's simply being cautious (hide from the kids, put the disc in the tray correctly, don't put your nether regions in a toaster, etc.)

    I'm more of a format changer than a backer-upper (?), and I understand people's need (want) to have their discs operate to their personal tastes, but the "restrictions" are like anything else. I bought a car that goes 180mph, but the sign near the school reads 25. And they took away my basic human rights when they made me wear a seat-belt. And so on.
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  21. Originally Posted by Supreme2k View Post
    This may be an insane, radical new idea, but maybe you could try keeping them out reach of the property destroyers?
    I never let my kids touch the DVDs until they were old enough and responsible enough to handle them with care.

    Part of copyright protection is showing due diligence in protecting the product. Even though copy protection gets cracked fairly quickly, at least the companies can report that they tried. Otherwise, the "unlocked front door" argument is used for illegal copying.

    You can still make free backups, but you have to wait or pay if you want to backup (some, not all of) the latest releases. Same thing with any software. You want to get the business standard, like MS Office, you have to pay. You can get OpenOffice for free.
    Yes I'm starting to think that I'm gonna have to start taking evasive measures now to protect the originals.

    I don't seem to remember copy protection for video tapes which if I can recall were not protected in any way. I know that video tapes took the entire running time of the video to copy to another tape but it would sure help to still have videotapes around nowadays because of the ease of making a backup copy.

    I think someone else touched upon this somewhere in this thread. Back in the 90's. I still used to make a backup copy of my original shop-bought video tapes just as a disaster recovery procedure. It's just that the need to make backups is a requirement now more than ever because of the presence of young children.

    Plus there are other family members who I would not trust with my DVDs either as they are complete technophobes and would mishandle them.

    Last year, I had to pay twice a few times to buy the DVD for the same movie because the first original disc was mishandled and became unreadable. I probably need to keep my DVD collection under lock and key.
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  22. Originally Posted by soneman View Post
    I don't seem to remember copy protection for video tapes which if I can recall were not protected in any way.
    Virtually every commercial VHS tape was protected with Macrovision.
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  23. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by soneman View Post
    I don't seem to remember copy protection for video tapes which if I can recall were not protected in any way.
    Virtually every commercial VHS tape was protected with Macrovision.
    This is not correct.

    I can confirm that I have made a backup copy of many original shop-bought video tapes either to another video tape or transferred straight to DVD-R/DVD+R.

    There is no copy protection on commercial video tapes at all at least not here in the UK.
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  24. The UK my differ from the the USA in this respect. Most commercial VHS tapes in the USA were macrovision protected.
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  25. I have just tried ripping a new DVD released last week with the latest free version of DVDFab (v7.0.2.6 beta) and it starts ripping then fails at 90%.

    I then tried installing the latest version of AnyDVD (v6.6.3.0) and it rips the whole disc without problems.

    Mind you, I had to install AnyDVD on my friend's computer which has never had AnyDVD installed before.

    But it just goes to show you what needs to be done these days just to make a backup copy of your DVD collection.

    I don't know why Fengtao continue to make a free version of DVDFab if they already know it is riddled with bugs and months behind on the latest copy protections. Is it a deliberate ploy to get me to buy the software?

    I think I may end up buying the AnyDVD software seeing as it has a 100% success rate for me based on the trial software that I've used. Although I doubt even buying this sort of software is legal as I've heard that SlySoft are soon going to receive legal threats from the film studios due to their successes in defeating the latest copy protections.
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  26. Originally Posted by soneman View Post
    I don't know why Fengtao continue to make a free version of DVDFab if they already know it is riddled with bugs and months behind on the latest copy protections. Is it a deliberate ploy to get me to buy the software?
    Duh!

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    I've heard that SlySoft are soon going to receive legal threats from the film studios due to their successes in defeating the latest copy protections.
    That's why they're all based in China or Antigua and Barbuda.
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  27. Anyone has idea where can I get DVDDecrypter.exe (direct run) not setup.exe.
    I need to use it with some other DVD ripping tool (MKV Magic) has to be in some specific folder.
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  28. Install DVD Decrypter, copy the EXE, uninstall it.
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  29. I would prefer DVDCloner. Most of the people says it is "the best" DVD copy software available and can handle many copy protections. It is updated often and has a nice interface.
    Though, it's not free. You can make only one copy with unregistered version, but I was lucky to get the serial key by translating their product. I have to say that it is very fast, too.
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