HERE's HOW TO FIT 120mins movie on one cd in SVCD FORMAT!!!!

[bilbogod]

ZeppelinFan:- A friend of mine couldn't get windvd to play svcds off of the cdrom drive. Try installing Powerdvd instead if you can. Alternatively use vcdgear, to convert your DAT file into an mpeg which you can then play straight off of your pc. Also try downloading a trial version of Nero to do your burning with.....

[ZeppelinFan]

Thanx Bilbogod,
I already downloaded the nero and it works good. Now you say that Alternatively use vcdgear, to convert your DAT file into an mpeg which you can then play straight off of your pc. Now is that just a program that converts it when playing the .dat file or is it just another program that changes it to a .mpg on the comp, which we already had when we started this process? LOL And also, I was wondering about my other questions I had, which never got answered. 8)

Mark

[vhelp]

>> Hey, what the hell is this talk about fake stuff ?? Cheeky sods !!! I think fake was
>> definately the wrong word to use here. Whilst secretly I think that Kwag is that Mr
>> Hori (TMPGenc Dude),
Didn't I attach a few faces to it, he, he....
Still, read below for an explanation, at least my theories. This sees to explain your
out-of-a-hundred, good quality sample clip. I know it's not a longer sample, so we can
get a better picture of the bitrate, but still, it showed/shows promise for us all.

>> I'm certainly no David Blaine with encoding. Hell, I only got my first p.c last
>> October and am constantly learning. I've got absolutely NO idea why that clip
>> looks so good. I couldn't believe my own eyes when I first saw it.
An explanation could be in order here. And, I think I have it... well, to some extent.
The template, or shall I say, settings, since I partly gave up on it, likes the 4:3
ratio better and encodes it MUCH better. I've notice that if I do those 16:9 that are
really narraw, ie, "Star Wars Phantom Menace", "Mummy Returns" ta name a few, they don't
come out very well - at least NOT on a PC monitor. But a short Star Wars clip I did,
though not so good on PC monitor, did come out ok on TV. But, not all the test clips
came out this way (those I did w/ really narrow widescreen ratios)
Also, I re-did the DVD movie "Dogma", but not w/ your template, and I noticed that it
came out (quality'wise) very good, at least I think so. I've ben viewing so many clips
its enough to make my head spin, he, he... Anyways, then again, I could be ALL wrong
about the ratio thing***.
So, FULLscreen seems to be the way to go! But, if the clip is 4:3 (though widescreen)
it will come out ok. At least those that I did. BUT, nothing like the sample clip I
(we all) d/l'ed here via Kwag's storage site.

As for the template I uploaded I did recreate it really quickly with my adjusted PAL settings, so I'll double check it in case I made any mistakes.

>> Just in case anyone has got the same dvd, it is Farscape episodes 1.05 1.06 1.07.
>> But I guess it must be emphasized that this is in PAL format which should be of a
>> significantly higher quality than N.T.S.C. It would be good to get feedback from
>> people who tried the templates when working with PAL dvds.
This was my theory all along, he, he...

>> p.s I'm a 25 year old student if it matters to anyone about our ages
No, it doesn't

>> Baker - I would get my name changed if Baldrick will allow me, to "Trakripper". A
>> bit pretentious I guess, but hey its better than Bilbogod or Dildogod.....
What was that, "dildo" #$#!#$, I mean, "bil", he, he... who called you "dildo"???
Not me, I hope, he, he...ya bumm!

Ok, I'm d/l'ing some more of your samples.
Will give ya's another honest opinion on each. . .

And, I too have a few samples, but I'm hesitant to upload them yet.

REVIEW:
-------------
Farscape:
Very good qulaity VCD, by bilbogod.
ROE:
* Ok, these just in. I finished d/l'ing the "ROE" clip, and for the 15sec it
was, it was pretty darn good. Too bad theirs no real action sequence.
Sure would love to see things mess up, he, he...
TPD:
* Very good quality VCD also, by kwag.
HollowMan:
* Very good quality VCD also, by kwag.

I guess I'm missing something here, cause this clips don't lie, he, he...
They're very good quality, plain and simple! Ok, they do spike a bit,
but for the most part, they still show: good quality, and low bitrate.
Well, that's my HONEST review! no hold bar!, he., he...

Again, tanx 4 all da support guys!
-vhelp

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[bilbogod]

Yeah Vcdgear just converts binary data (dat file) to a video stream (mpeg) that should be playable via the software player that you mentioned. I'm afraid I don't know what your exact problem would be with Win DVD since I dont own it. Perhaps someone else can tell you this..... As for the burning process in Nero, I usually have to click on the box that states "turn off standard compliancy". This will burn the mpeg which was compiled via the non-standard vcd stream in TMPGenc.

[bilbogod]

he he.... I love these theories of yours.....I remember when we had that super fast 56k download speeds discussion LOL. U remember when I posted my screenshots to prove that I was getting 30+ kbps transfer speeds.
What makes me laugh is that Mirror Image dude and his acid ramblings about 10,000 mins on one cd in the other thread. I can just picture the embittered old fart (no offense Mirror ), donning pipe and slippers whilst criticising some young upstart for laying claim to the impossible.
There's a little thing thats been bothering me.... When Virtualis had his recent talk with TMPGencs Mr Hori, I wondered if he told him about the marketing potential of SVCD-x and our rainbow book format

[kwag]

@ZeppelinFan

You can also use VCDEasy. That's what I use. For VCD's it's better than Nero, because you can create chapters in your final mpeg.
Get if from the tools section right here on vcdhelp.com.

kwag

[baker]

@ vhelp

*WHAT D **** ARE YOU ******* ON ABOUT!!!*

When ever, and i do mean ever, did i say:
>> Baker - I would get my name changed if Baldrick will allow me, to "Trakripper". A
>> bit pretentious I guess, but hey its better than Bilbogod or Dildogod.....

Thats total bull, and you know it.

Baker

[kwag]

An anime sample has just been posted. Thanks to a friend for the time taken.

http://shidima.com/kwag

kwag

[vhelp]

baker, no affense, dude, ...
but get your nose out of the grinds, he, he....

It was a simple mistake of cutting and dragging text.
I was talking to bilbogod, though you name was dragged in back accident.
K dude??? LOL. And, I was kidding around with him, all in good humar.

But try and simmer down on the words here. It's really not appropriate
to actually SPELL it out

But no affense was taken by ya.
-vhelp

[kwag]

The site where the samples are http://shidima.com/kwag
will be down for maintenance for about 4 hours from sunday 02:00 GMT to about 06:00 GMT.

The templates will be posted in about one hour.

kwag

[Bigswaffo]

hey kwag, what about the question i asked earlier? do u resize the image to 352x480 or put borders around?

[kwag]

The templates are UP!.

http://shidima.com/kwag

Enjoy!.

[kwag]

hey kwag, what about the question i asked earlier? do u resize the image to 352x480 or put borders around?

I never put borders around the image. Just resize.
Download FitCD, and use the Mpeg resize that it provides, as it does accurate resizing. Then just open the .avs AviSynth script that it generates with TMPEG, and you're set!.

kwag

[Bigswaffo]

i really can't understand fitCd. i'm using ur newly posted PAL temp. and the original video is 352x288, what should i resize it to to fit in the TMPGEnc template of 352x576?

[Bud]

OK Guys...been following the process, have the templates, now the question is if I already have MPEG standard VCD file can TMPGEnc re-encode it with the templates you have put out? any of the templates.......many thanks

Bud

[kwag]

i really can't understand fitCd. i'm using ur newly posted PAL temp. and the original video is 352x288, what should i resize it to to fit in the TMPGEnc template of 352x576?

You DON'T upscale. You adjust the template to be 352x288 output.

Anything that you upscale will be less quality than your original.

And this is not regarding the template. This applies to any video source.

[kwag]

OK Guys...been following the process, have the templates, now the question is if I already have MPEG standard VCD file can TMPGEnc re-encode it with the templates you have put out? any of the templates.......many thanks

Bud

Yes you can. But don't expect better quality. The best thing you'll get is a much smaller mpeg file. But remember to re-encode at the SAME resolution or less than your original.

Basic rule: Output resolution <= Input resolution.

[StoneColdWhat]

OK So can someone tell me if this thing works at all

[cybermage26]

OK So can someone tell me if this thing works at all

and the idiot of the year award goes too..........


lol.


man theres templates here, samples, comments from people, the works. you lazy fool, do some looking around yourself and dont expect to get spoon fed, lol fool hehe.

[StoneColdWhat]

I don't feel like going through 12 pages thats why I asked

[Bud]

OK...ran a test...ran Capture with ATI Rage 128 Pro and MMC 7.6, recorded a 96 min movie with the STANDARD MPEG 1 VCD settings, ran the resulting MPEG through TMPGEnc 2.53 with the template, came out good, all on one CD-R 80 min disc, playing it back as we speak on a Portable Panasonic LV55 DVD player. So now I will try it with a MPEG 2 setting. We get back with the result later.....it works for me, I travel a lot and one CD is the only way to go.......keep up the good work..

Bud

[baker]

right i was glad to hear the templets are up now i can see if this is any good by myself. I may also use tmpegenc plus to multipass, that would yield better quailty right?

Baker

[baker]

That website is down!!!

Baker

[vhelp]

Morning all.

OK, here is my final thoughts on the topic of the:
* template(s) and even
* MY version encoding via the 1,20,3,0

As to good quality from it:
* it never really worked in any of my clipcs (cept maybe one) ,
...DVD sourse, good quality 720x480 captures from ATI-TV Wonder,
even my DV cam captures. However, one final movie did show some
decent quality, and that was the "Get Karter" dvd, where the girl and
her mothers brother (Karter) are sitting outside on stairs, smoking, and
she wants to be alone. Anyways. . .
- - - so in short, it depends on the DVD source, even your captures, etc.

As to SIZE, savings:
* yes, it does to work.

As for BLOCKS:
* well, yes, you'll see them, in fast scenes. There's no getting around
them.

All in all, it seems to play well when played on PC (those few that did
seem to work for me) But just not on my dvd player:
* Apex AD-1500
If you get yours to work on your model, or even the AD-1500, great.
I'm not interested in playing on my PC, but for those that do, then this
template may be for you
As for me, I'm choosing to move on (see below)

My reason for not contining to use:
* I get audio sync issues on mine. Did the "Get Karter" movie and
audio would go off before or after, and
* video would sometimes studder.
- - - so it would depend on your dvd player, and

So I guess it will depend on each individual's preference/limits or what
they're willing to put up with ( glitches, etc. ) and whether or not to use the template even under these issues.
I think it may work for some here, since some of the threads I read lead
you me to that understanding.

All in all, I had a good half weekend challenge or fun. It kept me busy
and these are things I like to explore evey once in a while, to keep me on
my feet, and strong in the video world ...and, even if it will ultimately becomes a complete waist of time and energy, he, he... It didn't
hurt me to try. I had the time. I do think it's best to stick to the
1,5,2 GOPs and you wont have the issues I laid out above, even if it means larger size.

Thank your all for the fun, its ben a long 12 mile run
-vhelp

[kwag]

right i was glad to hear the templets are up now i can see if this is any good by myself. I may also use tmpegenc plus to multipass, that would yield better quailty right?


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That website is down!!!

Baker

It's back up again. The maintenance took longer than expected. ( Murphy's law )

http://shidima.com/kwag

[baker]

right now i have the templet i will let u know how it looks.

I am beginning to dislike vhelp i think he has lost the plot.

And murphys law, whats that?

and was Murphy Irish?

Baker

[kwag]

right now i have the templet i will let u know how it looks.

I am beginning to dislike vhelp i think he has lost the plot.

And murphys law, whats that?

and was Murphy Irish?

Baker

Murphy's Law:

If something can go wrong, It WILL go wrong!.

[bilbogod]

Hey Kwag, would you say that Farscape clip skips at all ?? Another poster suggested that it does. I dont see it........

[kwag]

Yes. I noticed that too. Could you do a quick test? Can you open the .ifo on your Farscape PAL DVD with Xmpeg and let me know what the framerate under Options/Global Project Options/Video says?

Download FlaskMPEG XiS (Xmpeg) from here if you don't have it.
http://www.dvd-digest.net/downloads/files/flaskmpeg/Flask3.0eExp.exe

Or you can open the first VOB with DVD2AVI and press F5 for about a minute and tell me if it reads on the right panel PAL or FILM and what percentage?.


Thanks,
kwag

[bilbogod]

ok. just ripping it now