AVSconversion audio problems (mkv-dvd)

[VicSedition]

So I just converted an mkv containing DTS audio into DVD for burning... the problem, which I've experienced with another dl'd mkv with dts audio, is that during the conversion process for some reason the audio starts to crack in random locations.... I've only had this problem twice so I'm not overly worried BUT as I am new to most of this I would like to understand if its an issue with avs converter concerning DTS, if my dl'd version just isn't up to snuff, or whether my burning process with nero isn't up to snuff (which I doubt..) any help would be greatly appreciate as I don't know where to really begin the troubleshoot other than trying other applications....

[guns1inger]

I know you don't want to try other tools, but frankly I wouldn't use either of those space wasters. I believe the issue lies with AVS Converter, and would suggest AVStoDVD as a free alternative that will do a far better job. I don't believe the issue, in this case, comes from burning with Nero. I wouldn't use Nero simply because Imgburn is far better and takes a 100's of MB less space than Nero.

Ditch AVSConverter and try AVIStoDVD instead

[VicSedition]

I'll give it a shot... Nero's my homie for the moment.. (one education at a time) So I have a better question I think... as I'm newbin' it, I've learned little about muxing and whatnot... should I be splitting some of this stuff up and then deal with it? Basically will I continue to have problems (whether miniscule or not) with "do it all" programs like avsconverter and avstodvd? I don't mind steppin up to the plate in research and education... I'd rather perfect this process as much as possible..I'm sure that if I'm dealing with dl's I'll be converting no matter what, but is it better (overall) to convert seperate streams when trying to build my movie collection?

[guns1inger]

The beauty of a program like AVStoDVD is that it basically is built up of all the manual steps - it demuxes the source, processes it with avisynth, encodes with HCEnc, remuxes and authors - all the steps you could do manually. But it automates them for you. Yes, if you were an experienced purist you might change the type of script it creates to use a different deinterlacer when resizing, or a different resizer (you can change this in the program anyway) and other little tweaks around the edges, but essentially you are getting the right process, done by the right tools. You can even see and edit the script it creates, so can make these tweaks if you really need to. I think it makes a good compromise between the full blown process, and beginner level all-in-one. It hides the worst of the complexity away for the beginner, but lets you tweaks and change things as you learn more.

[VicSedition]

I appreciate the info.. sounds like I have a new application to toy with...

[VicSedition]

I took your advice and I dl'd avs2dvd which is completely different from my experience with avsconverter... first off... upon install I had it install avisynth and the haali splitter... I already had vlc and cccp installed as a codec pack... The first thing I did was ad family guy something something dark side (mkv) and as it seemed most settings were correct as far as I know (besides the fact that I changed the auto setting from PAL to NTSC should I have done this?) I tried to start the process... the first thing that pops up are error dialogues with not much to say in the way of whats going on... I am currently trying another mkv file and so far seems to be working with different results... my first question is why I got these errors and if I needed to install all these things for functionality.. (mostly the haali splitter thing) my second question is do I need to make sure there are no conflicts between existing programs?

[guns1inger]

haali splitter is used for opening mkv files correctly. avisynth is the scripting tool that does most of the video processing before the encoding.

As for the error messages - without seeing them I can really tell you what they mean.

One thing to make sure of - rename any long file names to something simple. Anything with symbols or odd characters may cause problems.

[VicSedition]

I'm utilizing another mkv now and it seems to be doing its thing (both files had crazy long names but this one seems to be working)... however in my output directory I see a log file and then the m2v file only... does this mean I'm going to end up without audio? The next question is if I do end up with two files for video and audio such as ac3(not sure if I will) and m2v then how do I burn these files to dvd.. I was assuming I could utilize nero6 like I do with iso or vobs... I also noticed that even though I got errors last time I exited their dialogues and when checking the output folder saw that there were m2v file, log, and then the folders containing the video_ts/audio_ts... this file isn't doing that but no errors.. I guess for first use I'm completely confused... I still have some time before it finishes so this may be for nothing but I also wanna make sure that I shouldn't stop the process and change anything... should the setting have been changed to NTSC for instance? I figured that made more sense for the U.S. but I have no idea if it has anything to do with the input file... any basic info about avstodvd would be great because it seems to be much more configurable than avsconverter I just know little to nothing about it.

[guns1inger]

What you are seeing is AVStoDVD working through the file. First it does the video, then it does the audio, then any subtitle streams. Once it has all the elements encoded and prepared, it muxes them into an authored DVD structure. You just have to be patient and let it work through the file.

Unfortunately there are no guides listed, although if you search you may find some tips around the traps.

[VicSedition]

Everything worked as it should have...! At least for my second try/file....Seems like a great program I look forward to learning more about it... however I renamed the longfilename mentioned b4 and have retried the process.. within two seconds of start the error dialogues come up again.. 3 of em... They are in another language to me and I would love to alienate this problem if someone will help. I think it will be a great learning situation... is there a way (I noticed copytext as an option) to post this error here so that I might figure it out?

[guns1inger]

Post screenshots of the error messages. Use the snipping tool in W7 to just grab the error boxes

[VicSedition]

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After these three errors I usually x them out and then the quenc starts its deal and everything seems to be working as last time... the first thing I noticed tho is it ran through the time like a mofo but it was only 5 minutes...as I was typing this I double checked it and now the time remaining is more like it (35 mins at the moment the movie is 50 mins) so is this something to not worry about?

[VicSedition]

So after letting my errored mkv complete its duty with avstodvd I have found that there is no audio... other than that the movie seems to be fine... any thoughts on what the errors are and why it has no audio? Should I try messin with some settings?

[VicSedition]

Still havin no luck with this particular mkv, umm... some things I've tried is changing from the auto audio and played with different settings within ac3 to 2.0 or whatnot... nothing seems to be working... Are there just some dl'd files like this that I'll be encountering.. ? I could always dl another version but I'd rather understand the process... I don't know what I'm doing past the automatic settings and I'm wondering if I need to isolate these streams and convert the audio seperately or something to that affect...thanks

[VicSedition]

actually can anybody tell me if I'm going in the wrong direction?? Maybe it isn't the audio considering the errors pop up right after hitting start and the QuEnc program starts...

[davexnet]

Take a screen image of the error box and make a post to the programs author directly showing him the problem: http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/forums/forum/700796

[guns1inger]

Post a mediainfo (tree view) of the source MKV and the resuling VOB files.

[_MrC_]

Take a screen image of the error box and make a post to the programs author directly showing him the problem: http://sourceforge.net/projects/avstodvd/forums/forum/700796

Or post it here. And copy & paste the log file too.



Bye

[VicSedition]

I deleted the file but have just now put it back on... I'll get those errors and logs posted soon.. I was reading on some other forums that my problem may have something to do with avstodvd not supporting aac 6 ch... most suggestions were to utilize mkvmerge and recreate ac3 and then send through avstodvd... ??? as a side note I was just reading up on my MB (ma785gmt-ud2h) and found out that 6ch HDMI LPCM isn't supported with its IG (radeon 4200)...looks like goin discrete is a better idea..

[_MrC_]

avstodvd not supporting aac 6 ch

Not true, if you have the proper splitter (Haali) and codec (ffdshow) installed... anyway, let's see the log file.



Bye