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  1. The Mustang King arcorob's Avatar
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    Over the years, I created 100's of professional videos and gave them out on DVD's. I also kept copies of most and have discovered something. Something enlightening and awful at the same time.

    If I stored my backups on any DVD-R or DVD+R silver tops, non-printable, they work perfectly. Anything stored on White tops, even ones not printed on will NOT play. This is awful. over 50% of my backups, gone.

    Many of these were Tayo Yuden or other "good brands" . The drives or standalone DVD players wont read them. Most are 3 to 4 years old. I have silver ones 6 to 7 years old, play fine.

    Thoughts ?
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    Is this a dead topic ? How many wedding videographers have this issue or am I the only one...?
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    Specify "good brands".
    Special where the "Taiyo Yuden" discs were bought.

    If I had to bet money, I'd say you're sitting on a stack of junk and/or fakes.
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    t.y. inkjet printables only work well for me if burned at 4x(regardless of brand/model of burner), at their rated 8x they are un-readable in many players. verbatim datalifeplus 8x inkjet printables are my preferred discs.
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    Lordsmurf, that is entirely possible...When purchased, I was buying in bulk from tapestockonline.com

    Way back when (if you remember me) I am sure I checked the DVD media codes as I was VERY big into that stuff and they checked out...but still they are ALL fubar...I have no way of checking. I do have a spindle with some remaining 10 or so that work, not sure if I bought at the same time, same locale...probably not.

    But I was buying hundeds delivered as non-spindled 50's that I would just use my old spindles. Why would they just go unreadable if they were never printed on..burned yes, but no print. No scratches, no exposure to heat or light. Hmm....Wonder if I could send you one...?
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  6. Try extracting with IsoBuster or DVDFab Decrypter then make backups, nobody said DVDR would last forever.
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    Ahh..but for the tool to work, the drive has to recognize a disk...it doesn't ..it just chugs and chugs....same in a standalone player sigh
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    Your drive might be the problem.

    People always worry about discs, but in reality the players/drives are the things that die fast.
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    Nhaa..drive is brand new (5 months old) , SCSI DVD ...and besides, have tried in other drives and players...I will do some more research...maybe I get 1 to work and can pull the specs.
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    Okay..i got it

    I did a more thorough view. Seems I did have a bad lot
    Prodiscs03 - fine
    Prodiscf01 - fine
    TYG03 (tayo Yuden )- fine

    RITEK05 - bites the big one...yet DVD identifier can read..has to search the manufacturer DB to find but does find..but can be read as a DVD

    Hmmm..wonder how many bad i have..hope it was a small lot
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    so someone re-labeled some of the worst available crud on the market - "ritek05" - as taiyo yuden? that bites.
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    In a nutshell...YES.I remember back in 2006 - 2007 period , I went from the PRODISCS (which were actually fine) to taiyo yudens. well, you order a few, check one or two and all is well. Next thing you know, I am burning RITEK05's and screwed.

    BTW ..just checked my leftover spindle - Checked a blank with DVD INFO just to see what I have - They are Taiyo Yuden TYG03...so that tells me THEY WERE MIXED...UGGGG...Bastages !!!!


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG03]
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    Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
    Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
    Manufacturer ID : [TYG03]
    Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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    [ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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    ** INFO : Data Below Is Formatted For www.VideoHelp.com/DVDmedia
    ** INFO : 4-Byte Header Present
    ** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
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    Complete DVD Media Code =
    00 00 00 00 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 84 0d 11 .....@....R.....
    66 78 90 00 03 54 59 47 30 33 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG03......
    00 00 00 00 05 a8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 09 15 ........ .......
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    DVD Media Type=DVD-R
    DVD Media Code=TYG03.......
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    "Good" and "new" aren't necessarily the same.

    RITEKG05 doesn't burn well, and it read/played even worse. Since you never tested each disc in detail, you can't say anything has "died" or "disappeared" on you. It was more likely never a good burn to start with.

    If the disc/burn is at least marginal, then a really good drive should still have the ability to read it.
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