Can someone help with backing up blu rays with the Hauppauge hd pvr?

[mbrandt]

I recently received my hd pvr and am able to record all my gameplay from my ps3 slim, but I am not able to record any of my blu rays to back them up. It says that there is copy protection and I can't record my blu rays. I thought that if I was recording from my component cables it would not be able to find the copy protection. Any help would be appreciated. This is the message that i am receiving.

[jagabo]

It's unfortunate if they've added CGMS-A detection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGMS-A
Try reverting to older versions of the software.

[mbrandt]

unfortunately i can't really revert back to anything because i basically installed the software that is came with. so there's really nothing for me to revert back to. do you think it's just the Total Media Extreme software or possibly the Ps3 or maybe even the actual HD Pvr? Do you think maybe a different hd pvr software (such as eyetv 3 for the mac) or maybe a different blu ray player could be the solution?

[mail2tom]

I just tried connecting the component output from my JVC XV-BP1 to my Hauppauge HDPVR, inserted a commercial Blu-ray movie and Total Media Extreme had no problem with it (I haven't thought of backing up my Blu-ray movies this way since my kids are grown). It looks like it's a Sony thing.

[mbrandt]

yeah my only guess is that it is the slim ps3 that won't allow it. I know other people with the ps3 have done it, but that was with the older one. or it could be that sony patched this somehow in a firmware update.

[jagabo]

When the HD PVR first hit the streets it was confirmed that it ignored CGMS-A. That was one of its attractions. So this is a new developement. Either newer models or newer software now responds to the CGMS-A do-not-copy flag.

[SHS]

mbrandt post all info on HD-PVR from the sticker on buttom side of HD-PVR box and ver of Total Media Extreme look like you have latest 1.0.9.9 and what driver ver.
I know some one that has a slim ps3 I see if he can bring it by for testing being I have one of very frist model HD-PVR.

[mbrandt]

Bottom Sticker Says:
HD PVR
49001 LF
Rev E1
Product of Indonesia

Total Media Extreme Product Version Number: 1.0.9.9

Not sure what driver version? how do I look that up?
I know its a model 1212 if that helps any

[SHS]

In the Device Manager

[mbrandt]

ok i found it. It says that it's driver version 1.5.6.1
and if it helps at all, it says that the driver date is from 5/1/2009.

[SHS]

Ok, It may have something to do with new Slim PS3 the HD-PVR driver or latest TME software, if want you could try out the older stuff
http://www.shspvr.com/ftp/download/wintv-hdpvr/
There is older Full CD there cd-hd-pvr-v22f.zip with drivers all ready install and try with hdpvr1.0.5.301_whql.zip
As for your HD-PVR 49001 LF Rev E1 it last know update hardware so it no newer model I belive date back over 1 year.

[mbrandt]

ok so i downloaded both of those files, but should I uninstall anything before i try those ones out? will anything conflict if i just install the two new files?

[jagabo]

You could test whether it's TME or the drivers by using GraphEdit or GraphStudio to capture.
http://blog.arogan.com/2008/06/hauppauge-hd-pvr-model-1212.html

[yoda313]

Just to confirm I can dub bluray over component to my hdpvr with my 40gb plus size ps3 (fat just seems to be too derogatory).

I have the update to the hdpvr software from last fall. This is my pvr model 490001 Rev d2.

Though I haven't done it recently so if there is a update from the ps3 that might do it I may also be locked out. I haven't tested it lately.

Of course remember it won't DUB DTS AUDIO! So it can't do it. Only dolby digital titles.

[mbrandt]

ok so i tried installing the new programs and I am now running version 1.0.9.7 of Total Media Extreme and the Hauppauge HD-Pvr is using driver 1.5.6.0. However I still get the message that says copy protection: no copies may be made of this content. I was able to install TME with success but when I try to install the drivers it says "drivers have not been updated. Compatible hardware not found."

[jagabo]

Can you watch the incoming video but refuse to record it? Or does it not let you see the video at all?

[mbrandt]

yes i can see the video but I can't record it. this is what the screen looks like

[fritzi93]

Just to confirm, I tried mine and it recorded no problem from my Sony BD-P360 using component out at 720p. Recorded to my HTPC.

Model: 490001 LF d2
TME latest version update applied (v. 1.0.9.4._1.0.9.9) on 10/21/2009. (I had saved it at that time from temp file). No later version available.

In Device Manager:

Driver: Hauppauge, Inc.
Date: 4/1/2009
Version: 1.5.6.0

[EDIT] Obviously, TME is not the problem.

[SHS]

Then only way around is with HDfury 2

[jagabo]

yes i can see the video but I can't record it.

That means the HD PVR is getting the video, compressing it, sending to the PC, then the PC is decompressing the video, and displaying it. So the problem lies in the capture program, it's simply refusing to save the data it is receiving. You should be able to capture with GraphEdit or GraphStudio as I suggested earlier. That gives you a straight dump of the data from the driver to a file. You might also be able to use something like Sage TV or Beyond TV.

[fritzi93]

ok so i tried installing the new programs and I am now running version 1.0.9.7 of Total Media Extreme and the Hauppauge HD-Pvr is using driver 1.5.6.0. However I still get the message that says copy protection: no copies may be made of this content.

I was able to dub 10 minutes of an original BD disc (just long enough to test it) an hour ago using:

TME v. 1.0.9.9
Hauppauge HD-PVR Driver v. 1.5.6.0

Verified it actually recorded, by playback of the transport stream with MPCHC.

I think it's down to your PS3 or the model of your HD-PVR. It appears to be later than mine (rev.d2). Does anyone out there have a (rev. e1) model to test?

[mbrandt]

yes i think it comes down to the hd-pvr because I just tried hooking it up to a sony bdp-bx2 and i still get the message.

[jagabo]

If TME can display the video that means it is getting into your computer. All you have to do is use capture software that doesn't refuse to save the data to a file.

[mbrandt]

do you have any suggestions for any software (hopefully free) that I can use to capture from the hd-pvr?

[jagabo]

I already suggested four programs.

[zenzen1]

I have a Rev E1 HD PVR and am using the latest drivers and TME software mentioned above.
Connected my LG BluRay player BD300 to the HD PVR via component cables and optical audio.
It records the BluRay content perfectly, even at medium quality setting. Currently have the BR
player output set to 1080, but will give the 720p setup a try, and see if there is a difference.

TME outputs the BR movie as a TS file, and this can be edited with the latest VideoReDo NLE
(very accurate) editor Ver 4. With VRD4 you can cleanly edit out any inaccurate starts, or FBI
warnings, etc, and also any unwanted content during the movie.

I also record HD content from my cable provider (Foxtel), and this was the main reason for
purchasing the HD PVR. (The BR backup system was a nice after-thought)

[vhelp]

Can someone help with backing up blu rays with the Hauppauge hd pvr?

I don't get it. Why are people "capturing" from their BL players when they don't have to ? unless they are only testing-to help the poster resolve his card/driver issue. I must be missing something, though I did read through the whole discussion.

-vhelp 5320

[fritzi93]

Yeah, never tried it before, and only tested it because of this thread. Not what I got it for.

[EDIT] Did a little digging and like jagabo says, BeyondTv and SageTV supposedly support the Hauppauge HD-PVR. Add to that GB-PVR.

It does seem inexplicable, though, that some people can record Blu-Ray with no problem using latest TME and drivers, while the OP cannot. And the OP also could not record using another set-top, which seems to rule out the PS3 as the problem.

Try another PVR program, worth a shot.

[jagabo]

It does seem inexplicable, though, that some people can record Blu-Ray with no problem using latest TME and drivers, while the OP cannot.

Some BD players add the CGMS-A flag, some do not.

Also keep in mind that Blu-ray players sold after the end of this year will not be allowed to output high definition analog signals. And players sold after 2013 will not be allowed to have any analog outputs at all.

[SHS]

I don't get it. Why are people "capturing" from their BL players when they don't have to ? unless they are only testing-to help the poster resolve his card/driver issue. I must be missing something, though I did read through the whole discussion.

-vhelp 5320

One reason would be becuase it faster in the long run then Ripping and Converting.