Want to create Really Cool DVD's ???

[Deter]

I love it, you have no idea. I don't need to prove anything to you. You need to train your eye. In the field, I worked in for years, that is how I was able to be better than my competitors. The avg idiot, however couldn't see the difference. That was funny to me. It is also one of the reasons why I can't write and my grammer sucks. It is kind of weird.

I really don't think you have a trained eye at all, from reading your posts and I would like to look at some of your video work.

Yea I did it with the commercial stuff and I can pick up the flaws. The goal is to get the videos to the point were the level is acceptable to the normal tolerance level.

I actually just worked on 3 projects were I took commerial recordings and fixed them up.

[Bjs]

Upscaling will introduce problems not normally seen when viewing material at it's predefined normal viewing scale ... if you use upscaling at all ... then your testing procedure is doomed to fail as it gives false perspective.

[guns1inger]

Again, it is not because your eyes are better, but because you have trained yourself to see the flaws. Anyone here who cares to and spends the time to has done the same. So what ?

Your issue is trying to find out where you are losing quality in your current project, and resolving that issue.

[lordsmurf]

I've done pretty well in the past year UNtraining myself to see flaws when watching TV. That was a 2008 resolution, silly as it sounds. Took two years to actually happen.

I only go into "see errors" mode in the office.

For about 2-3 years there, I had a hard time enjoying anything, because my brain always went into flaw-seek mode.

[Deter]

The problem is in the Sony DVD Architect.

I tested this out, it took 2 days. Went out an purchased a capture card, recorded the video to the PC. Than burned it using Sony DVD Architect.

It was the same problem as stated above. So it was decided at that time to just use the DVD recorder, were the problems are not as noticeable. I returned the card to the store. With help from lordsmurf, I was able to find a better DVD recorder.

I want to use the PC, cause I need it to do edits to the videos.

The biggest issue is that all this computer stuff and HD was not out 20 years ago. Yea I think they started doing HD back in 93, however it really was not viewable on the TV at that time. The other problem is that I have 20 years worth of VHS and Beta tapes of recordings that you can't purchase from a store.

lordsmurf, because of your skills, which I saw from your posts, of having a trained eye and extreme knowledge on videos, is why I hired you to help out with that video project. Can't wait to see if you can restore that video, cause it is in bad shape. I got people sending me more tapes some of them are PAL.

[Deter]

Here is a good example, I think it comes down to the pixels

This is pretty much a good quality photo, we will use it for the example, it has good colour, u put this on DVD it will look good on the TV

[lordsmurf]

Chroma noise from low light.
More at http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/vhs-chroma-flaws-565.html

[Deter]

This is a VHS copied tape than recorded to Betamax back to VHS than to DVD. Now the pixels are crap by now and a blur. Plus they have been merged so many times. Than when u play it back at 29 frames per second the data in the picture is such a mess, that it just looks horrible. (I also increased the size of the picture to show the blocks)

Right now I am in the middle of the road with the quality of the old VHS tapes, the goal would be to get it to the pic above. The problem is the mis-colour pixels that u can pic up on the play back. The more off the pixels are (blending in to each other) the worse the picture will look. Now VHS has a lot of noise in the picture, you convert that noise in to the data blocks that make up the DVD picture, it makes the picture look bad.

Sony DVD Architect for some reason moves the pixels a tad different than the source so when u burn a disk the picture quality is less.


That is my theory.......It is also the basic reason, why so many of the YouTube videos are crap. I have no backround with video other than working on this stuff for the last 2 months.

So what I need is good mpeg converter to DVD burning software, something that will improve the picture. Make the motion as good as it was on VHS or the DVD copy of it.

[Deter]

lordsmurf,

I just followed your link and downloaded, tested your test files than downloaded VirtualDub, I don't really know how to use it. But tried some of the filters on a Video and it was like amazing.

For me all the tech stuff in the program is foreign, I have no idea what anything means or does.


My question is this, I work with mpeg files, and had to download the mpeg plugin.


For some reason the program is making me save it to avi, I don't want avi files. My 10 minute clip that I tested out is 17.3 GB.

What can I do with them? How do I get the files to Mpeg or save them to mpeg. Why mpeg ? I just want the files to be put back on the DVD's.

On a stanard DVD I want 2 hours worth of playblack.

Which of these filters should I use when trying to clean up VHS stuff, and what other features do I need to be using in VirtualDub

EDIT: What I did was moved the AVI into movie edit put back the soundtrack from the mpeg file, now I can save it back to mpeg

[Bjs]

17.3 gig means no compression being used

With vitualdub and its variants to obtain mpeg you need to know how to setup frameserving for an mpeg encoder

Avidemux has it all and can output to mpeg and others

[Deter]

I just tried Avidemux, this may sound stupid how do u out put the mpeg file. Everytime I do in the job menu it creates a file that will not run.

I am loading in a mpeg2 video which I want to filter than output to the same type of file, no idea how to do this.

what should I set for video / audio and what should be set for format?

EDIT:

It is so stupid u need to output the file than rename it to .mpeg

What do the filter effects do ? What works best on VHS stuff?
Crn2
Denoise
MPPlayerDenoise3
FluxSmooth

and the rest of them?