TMPGEnc audio out of sync

[chung_chang]

Converting "Down to Earth" Divx to (x)vcd. After playing for about 10 minutes in DVD player, video will speed up while audio stays stable thus becoming out of sync. Within a few seconds, the video will slow down and sync back to audio again. This happens every few minutes throughout the remaining of the movie.

1. This occurs in my DVD player and not on my PC
2. If I rewind a few seconds and play, the out-of-sync will move to a different spot
3. Happens on CD-RW and 3 different CDR brands
4. Happens with TMPGEnc 2.52 and NOT CCE 2.50, 2.62, 2.64

My process is VDUB to extract audio to wav at 44.1k ---> TMPGEnc with unlock VCD NTSC Film (source is at 23.976 fps) changing bitrate to 780kbits to fit whole movie on 1 CD, changing stream type to MPEG1 VCD (non-standard) ---> author with TSVC. Although CCE works perfectly, problem is CCE produces worse video at such low bitrate. CCE 2.64 comes close to TMPGEnc video quality but it won't accept frameserved avi from VDUB since I have to resize. I had to convert to uncompressed avi with VDUB before encoding with CCE 2.64 which takes up over 40GB of diskspace!!!! I have searched this forum and found many topics related to this issue. But couldn't find any solution to help my exact problem yet. Please help.

[chung_chang]

^Bump^

Please help, thanks!

[chung_chang]

Am I the only one with this problem?

Since the forum's been down for a while, I had the chance to format and reload WinXP and the newer version of TMPGEnc (v2.53). Still, same problem with all of the DivX movies I have. I have been saving both wav and avi UNCOMPRESSED with VDUB and encode with CCE 2.64 to get around this problem. But it's such a hassle and uses so much disk space and quality is still not as good as TMPGEnc...

Please help! Anyone?

[KingJohn]

I dont know why you want to fit it all on one cd in the first place, disks are cheap the movie is FREE!!

Stick to VCD on 2 disks, you will have better movies, and None of your problems.

[chung_chang]

First of all, I am doing this more for the challenge and fun, not so much for the economics.

Secondly, I have tried default vcd NTSC template in TMPGEnc with the same result (not adjusting the bitrates). The fact that I can encode in CCE 2.50, 2.62 and 2.64 at the same bitrate as TMPGEnc without any sync problems leads me to believe there's something in TMPGEnc causing this.

Maybe it's not 100% compatible with WinXP? Does not work well with TSCV? Does not like DivX 4.12? Not compatible with Intel Pentium III with Intel 815 chipset motherboard? Or maybe a combination of the above or just a bug with TMPGEnc? Again, I can use any CCE versions in place of TMPGEnc with everything else being equal and have no problems. But as I've mentioned before, at low bitrates, CCE looks worse than TMPGEnc.

At the momment, I've completely given up on TMPGEnc but would definitely go back to it if I could just resolve this sync problem.

[aayarza]

First of all, I am doing this more for the challenge and fun, not so much for the economics.

Secondly, I have tried default vcd NTSC template in TMPGEnc with the same result (not adjusting the bitrates). The fact that I can encode in CCE 2.50, 2.62 and 2.64 at the same bitrate as TMPGEnc without any sync problems leads me to believe there's something in TMPGEnc causing this.

Maybe it's not 100% compatible with WinXP? Does not work well with TSCV? Does not like DivX 4.12? Not compatible with Intel Pentium III with Intel 815 chipset motherboard? Or maybe a combination of the above or just a bug with TMPGEnc? Again, I can use any CCE versions in place of TMPGEnc with everything else being equal and have no problems. But as I've mentioned before, at low bitrates, CCE looks worse than TMPGEnc.

At the momment, I've completely given up on TMPGEnc but would definitely go back to it if I could just resolve this sync problem.

First of all: If you want to make a (x)vcd´s with chapters, you have a problem, bacause your problem appears to be caused by the TSCV program. I make my xvcd´s too, I use WinXP (Build 2600, Spanish version), DivX 4.12, I have an Intel Pentium III with Intel 815 EPEA2 motherboard, TMPGEnc 2.53, and I used low bitrates as 477 kbps, but I have no problem.

I use DVD Decrypter 3.0 to rip the DVD then FlaskMpeg 0.6 Preview with the null.mism.flask plugin (to open IFO files) and DivX 4.12 to convert the .VOB to AVI (you can view subtitles with FlaskMpeg!) and then encode to .MPG with TMPGEnc 2.53 ( I prefer 12j Beta version, bacause it have a better image quality, but it´s slow), and finally I burn the xvcd with Nero Burning Rom 5.x.

I hope that it will be useful to you.

[RCP]

I've had this problem forever. I come to the conclusion it was the fault of my APEX 660. What kind of DVD player do you have?

[Hunting]

I'm having exactly the same problem. Out of sync if played on DVD Player; perfectly normal if played with POWER DVD in my computer.
My DVD Player is a Pioneer 344. I've already played downloaded SVCD's and have no sync problems. So, I don't think the problem is on the player.
The avi I've used to convert was in 23.978 fps and I choose 29 fps on TMPGEnc. I thought the problem was there, I mean, if I choose the same fps (23.978), it should give me a synchronized SVCD.
My process is VDUB to add subtitles ---> TMPGEnc on NTSC film (29 fps) and hit "Start" without changing anything.

[chung_chang]

Thanks for the useful feedback. My DVD player is a Daewoo 5000N (without the hack).

Based on what you guys are saying, it looks like it's either TSCV authoring not compatible with TMPGEnc or my standalone player is picky on TMPGEnc encoded mpeg stream.

I will try to burn the MPEG stream directly with NERO without chapters and see if this still happens. This will tell me if it's TSCV issue.

I loaned my friend one of my burned CD with sync problems and I will know by next Monday if he is having the same problem on his DVD player (I think he has a Philips) This will tell me if it's my DVD player.

Aside from that, I just wanted to re-emphasize that encoding with CCE works perfectly with TSCV and my DVD player. I will post my results later...