virtualdub dv type 2 problems

[sander815]

i want to convert a dv type 2 with staxrip into an xvid file, but i ran into an error when staxrip creates the avs files:
DirectShowSource("D:\deel1.avi", audio=false, convertfps=true)

Avisynth open failure:
DirectShowSource: couldn't open file D:\deel1.avi:
No combination of filters could be found to render the stream.
(D:\deel1 temp files\deel1_Source.avs, line 1)

when i open the DV in VDmod directly it opens normally
i have the panasonic dv codec installed
gspot: DV Types 2 AVI

some codec missing?

[Baldrick]

Can you play the dv-avi in windows media player?

[sander815]

yes, it plays in windows media player
i tried in stalling cedocida.dll as dv decompressor, but then i get The source image format is not acceptable (error code -2)

[filmboss80]

By any chance, did you crop the DV video to change the aspect ratio? Or perhaps, could there be any other issues that no longer make your source a legal DV avi file? What else does GSpot say about the source?

[jagabo]

VirtualDub uses VFW decoders. DirectShowSource() uses DirectShow decoders. Try using AviSource() instead of DirectShowSource(). Get rid of Panasonic DV codec it's full of bugs. Use Cedocida instead. Enable RGB output in Cedocida if you wan't to open DV AVI files directly with VirtualDub. VirtualDub doesn't like YUV output from DV AVI files. It doesn't mind YUV if you use AviSynth instead.

Windows includes a DirectShow DV decoder (part of quartz.dll) so DirectShowSource() should work. But something else may have messed it up. Re-registering quartz.dll may fix the problem. Open a CLI and type:

regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\quartz.dll

[sander815]

ok
how do i Enable RGB output in Cedocida?

with AviSource()[*] AVI: Opening file "D:\deel1 temp files\deel1_Source.avs"

[E] Error: Avisynth open failure:
AviSource: Could not decompress frame 0
(D:\deel1 temp files\deel1_Source.avs, line 1)

[Gavino]

ok
how do i Enable RGB output in Cedocida?

On XP:
Control Panel -> System -> Hardware -> Device Manager -> Sound, video and game controllers -> Video Codecs -> Properties -> Cedocida DV Codec -> Properties -> Settings

However, unless you specifically requested pixel_type="RGB32" or "RGB24" in your AviSource call, your error message

Error: Avisynth open failure:
AviSource: Could not decompress frame 0
(D:\deel1 temp files\deel1_Source.avs, line 1)

suggests a more general problem with the file rather than failure to obtain RGB.

[sander815]

1 have 2 pcs, the first everything works ok with the panasonic dv codec and staxrip or manually loading the avs script into VD
i changed to Cedocida on that pc, disabled yuy2 and yv12, but then i get The source image format is not acceptable (error code -2) when i load the DV avi into VD

on the second pc i changed the same regarding Cedocida and i get the same error in VD:[*] AVI: Opening file "D:\deel 4.avi"
Error: VideoSourceAVI error: The source image format is not acceptable.
(error code -2)

and loading the avs scripts still doesn't work



the dv's are standard dv avi's from avid liquid

[jagabo]

Add Info() to your AVS script and open in a media player. See what it says.

AviSource("DV.AVI")
Info()

Note: since you are using AviSynth to open the DV AVI you don't need to force RGB in Cedocida. I avoid YUV to RGB conversion whenever possible so I force Cedocida to output YUY2.

[sander815]

[jagabo]

Are you sure Cedocida is being used in AviSource()? Maybe some other decoder is interfering? I know that Panasonic DV codec will sometimes claim it can decode a file that it can't (like an MJPEG file). This causes symptoms like your first error message. But since your file is DV AVI that shouldn't be the case here. Did you completely remove the Panasonic DV codec?

The second error indicates there is no DirectShow decoder for DV. This is unusual because Windows has a built in DV decoder.

Are you using a 64 bit version of Windows? If so you have to be careful not to mix 32 bit and 64 bit software in your pipeline. And some 32 bit codecs need to be installed with an alternate procedure.

[sander815]

i have no idea
i am using 32bit OS

i decided to reinstall the system, after that i install staxrip, install cedocida, no other codecs, and still:
[i] Starting up: VirtualDubMod build 2540/release
[*] AVI: Opening file "E:\deel 1.avi"

[i] AVI: OpenDML hierarchical index detected on stream 0.

[i] AVI: OpenDML hierarchical index detected on stream 1.
[*] Beginning dub operation.

[E] Error: VideoSourceAVI error: The source image format is not acceptable.
(error code -2)

[jagabo]

I can't duplicate your error. After the error, can you select File -> File Information? What does it say?

Did you set up Cedocida to output RGB only?

[sander815]

i am running server2003 btw, on the pc that i want to use for conversion
(it needs server2003 for its normal, but its most of the time doing nothing)

file: file information



cedocida is setup as the image above

[jagabo]

It looks like everything is set up correctly. I can't duplicate your problem here. Are you sure there isn't something wrong with that particular file? Try this DV AVI file:

http://rapidshare.com/files/308803949/PalDv.avi.html

Also try using VirtualDub instead of VirtualDubMod. Aside from being more up to date, it has a built in DV decoder that you can enable.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Export the following registry keys and post them here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\drivers.desc

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32

[sander815]

It looks like everything is set up correctly. I can't duplicate your problem here. Are you sure there isn't something wrong with that particular file? Try this DV AVI file:

http://rapidshare.com/files/308803949/PalDv.avi.html

Also try using VirtualDub instead of VirtualDubMod. Aside from being more up to date, it has a built in DV decoder that you can enable.

that DV file opens fine in Virtualdubmod with cedocida

Staxrip uses virtualdubmod, i don't know if i can change that

[sander815]

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[sander815]

it must be a wrong dv file, i have new dv files to encode, and they load fine

only error i now get is this:
DirectShowSource: couldn't open file E:\week46\uitz.avi:
No combination of filters could be found to render the stream.
(E:\week46\uitz temp files\uitz.avs, line 1)

what do i need now?

[sander815]

fixed that with avisource in staxrip

another problem: i am cutting the avi in different, but after that the 16:9 flag is changed into 4:3. Is that a setting in virtualdub that converts the 16:9 to 4:3

[jagabo]

As far as I know, there is no VFW (what VirtualDub uses) DV encoder that lets you specify 16:9 DAR. What you usually do is override the source DAR in whatever editor you use later.

[Gavino]

In VirtualDub, doesn't Direct Stream Copy mode (which is all you need for cuts) preserve the DAR data from the DV stream?

[sander815]

this is the log from staxrip with one of the dv files:
Video
ID : 0
Format : Digital Video
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 3mn 58s
Bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 5:4
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.778
Stream size : 819 MiB (95%)

why is the DAR at 5:4 instead og 16:9

[JohnnyMalaria]

It's simply calculating it from the specified width and height (i.e., 720 / 576 = 5/4). I don't know what staxrip reads from the file but unless it is pulling it directly from the DV data inside the file and not the AVI header then it may be incorrect, especially for Type 2. AVI headers for Type 2 DV are rarely entirely correct.

[sander815]

is there a way to get that corrected?
we up all videos to dailymotion, and now they all get black bars instead of showing widescreen

[jagabo]

Is there any reaons to believe that Dailymotion will pay any attention to DV DAR flags? Most upload sites don't. Try resizing to a 16:9 frame size and uploading that.

[stax76]

IIRC for AVI sources StaxRip reads the DAR using MediaInfo so it's likely a problem with MediaInfo or the AVI file.