Most compatible burner with TY mediia....

[SE14man]

i have so far been using a pioneer 112D to burn my TY dvds. Bought a new pioneer 115D and according to my transfer rate graph the burns on it are awful.

what would u guys say is the most compatible burner with TY media?

Thank u.

[budz]

If the transfer rate is bad then my suggestion is to make sure you are using a 80 wire IDE cable with your PIONEER 115 drive. IDE CABLES can fail over time.

BTW PIONEER drives are not used for test burns. You would need to use a BENQ 1620, 1640, 1650, 1655, LITEON drives and some SAMSUNG drives. The transfer graph will not be correct if using a PIONEER drive.

[orsetto]

This comes up over and over again with Pioneer burners. Do check the cables, this is a very big "gotcha" with the Pioneers, but if the cables prove to be OK then you should probably just not worry about it. For some inexplicable reason, Pioneer burns on TY media often scan as horrifically poor using available consumer-level tests. These tests are notoriously unreliable to begin with, and hopeless when a Pioneer is involved. TY is not in the business of making incompatible discs: the entire point of using TY is the peace of mind knowing damn near every burner made is designed to work well with it. TY 8x is the baseline standard.

Is it possible Pioneer has been colossally stupid for the last seven years, making drives that don't burn well on industry-standard media? Sure, anythings possible in recordable-DVD-land: there are more ridiculous gotchas and illogical problems in DVD burning than with any other media type ever released. But I think it unlikely that the terrible scan results of TY media burned on Pioneers are entirely accurate: there have been way too many cases of people switching to other , lesser media based on these scan results, then reporting back three years later the other media that "scanned perfectly" is now unreadable while the "lousy scanning" TY discs still play perfectly.

If you'd rather not even think about it, find a source for Verbatim DataLife Plus 8x DVD-R. This offers performance and archival quality similar to TY but with a very different dye layer. The difference might give you superficially better scan results from your Pioneer with no sacrifice in media quality. Newer burners like the 112 and 115 can also get good results from Verbatim 16x DVD-R, easily available from superstores during weekend blowout sales. Aside from TY and Verbatim, there are no other DVD media brands worth bothering with.

[jman98]

@SE14man - If you are going to be one of those people who lives and dies by disc quality scans after burning, you might as well go to the http://club.cdfreaks.com website instead of asking here. Quality scans are mostly useless and people who take them seriously are, shall I politely say, a special breed. You'll just drive yourself crazy that way, but it's your life. orsetto's post is excellent and I agree with it.

[hech54]

I agree. Delete that stupid graph, media burn checking software crap.....it's useless.

[budz]

IMHO if the disc you burned doesn't playback correctly then doing a quality scan can be done. But as I posted you can't use a PIONEER drive to do quality scans in the first place. I been there done that with quality scans. It's a good tool to use if you're having problems with the burnt disc playing back funky.

[lordsmurf]

Have we even established if this person is actually having a problem with his TY discs? All I see is "tests don't work" conversation.

[SatStorm]

I use only Pioneer burners and T.Y. discs (mostly DVD-R but lately DVD+R ceramic, seems to be of better quality lately) with no problems. I have DVDs burned on 2001 and "failed" on tests since day one.
Those discs are like new today. They play perfect.
I trust both companies for their products. On the 8 and a half years that I use them, I had less than 10 coasters and all the rest discs play well (I know, since I transfer a great deal of them lately to HDD).