Hard Drive RPM's ?

[Noahtuck]

Hey

Another thread started me thinking about the RPM's of a HDD.

I have a couple of HDD's laying around i was going to use in an older PC but no where on the drives or labels does it state the RPM's of the drives.

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

[Jim44]

Hey

Another thread started me thinking about the RPM's of a HDD.

I have a couple of HDD's laying around i was going to use in an older PC but no where on the drives or labels does it state the RPM's of the drives.

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

I thought a system info program like SIW would, but it didn't on my system.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

Wow, I remember those. And no, they don't appear to be made any longer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Fireball

[edDV]

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

Disk model number + Google will get you the answer.

[Noahtuck]

Hey

Another thread started me thinking about the RPM's of a HDD.

I have a couple of HDD's laying around i was going to use in an older PC but no where on the drives or labels does it state the RPM's of the drives.

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

I thought a system info program like SIW would, but it didn't on my system.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

Wow, I remember those. And no, they don't appear to be made any longer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Fireball

Yeah i tried those and some others but nope...

And i was wondering because i have not seen one or heard of one in a loooong time
So i figured they were no more or really rare.....

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

Disk model number + Google will get you the answer.

The hell you say!!


Yeah i tried that and was getting results of both 5400 & 7200 for the same drive #


I figured there must be some kind of program out there that will just tell you by reading the drive, like most other pieces of hardware.

[edDV]

Why the %^&*# don't you tell us the *!@#$ model number?

[poisondeathray]

everest can

[Noahtuck]

Why the %^&*# don't you tell us the *!@#$ model number?

I did some more digging and i guess this is what they are,

Quantum Fireball Lct15 20
7200 RPM


QUANTUM FIREBALL Lct20 20
4500 rpm
(holy $h!t is that slow!!)

everest can

Mine don't, i tried it on 2 diff. PC's before i posted.

V 2.20.405

Maybe i need a newer version ?

EDIT:
Yeah i have the free version, i see they have a pay version that is quite a bit newer.

[edDV]

The Lct15 20 is a Y2K vintage ATA-66 drive. RPM shows as 4400 RPM although there were 7200 RPM models in the line. Regardless, the sustained transfer rate would be very low by today's standards.

[edDV]

The LCT20 is a 4500 RPM ATA-100 drive and would be equally slow by today's standards.
http://reviews.cnet.com/internal-hard-drives/quantum-fireball-lct20-hard/4505-9998_7-30019063.html

[Noahtuck]

The Lct15 20 is a Y2K vintage ATA-66 drive. RPM shows as 4400 RPM although there were 7200 RPM models in the line. Regardless, the sustained transfer rate would be very low by today's standards.

Yeah what i found on that drive was 7200rpm, exactly what i posted for both drives.

But that's why i would like to find something that could maybe read the drive's and tell me for sure.


And even if the new version of Everest will tell you the RPM's of an HDD, i have yet to find it....

[Nelson37]

Hated, absolutely HATED, those fireballs. High failure rate. Old, slow, poor quality. Paperweights.

Pretty sure the old spinrite would physically read RPM, I know other dirve diag progs can, throughput is what matters. Throughput combines RPM and interface, access times are also important.

It's like knowing the RPM on a motor, or the bore and stroke. Interesting, but horsepower, torque, and fuel economy are the important numbers.

[poisondeathray]

And even if the new version of Everest will tell you the RPM's of an HDD, i have yet to find it....

From the tree menu:

storage => windows storage => look under disk device physical info

[edDV]

Are you expecting RPM to mean video sustained bit rate? No it doesn't. Explain further your expectations.

Sustained bit rate also depends on platter density and interface.

[stiltman]

Are you expecting RPM to mean video sustained bit rate? No it doesn't. Explain further your expectations.

Sustained bit rate also depends on platter density and interface.

Everyone gets wrapped up on RPMs

I should try to find the spec of the first HP MPEG digital player
I know it had like 10 540mb drives in it
The boot drive was 540mb dive by itself

Never had a problem with it

Of course it was does based

[disturbed1]

Quantum --> Bought by Maxtor --> Bought by Seagate
http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/maxtor/en_us/documentation/data_sheets/fireball_lct..._datasheet.pdf

They only have the jumper settings for the lct10. Everything I've read states the LCT10 series is 4500RPM ATA/66. At the time, these drives where mainly used because the 4500RPM motor allowed for quieter operation.

I happen to still own a Quantum Fireball lct20 10.2 GB hard drive. Used to have a few of the Big Foot models in the past. These were extremely cheap and big storage drives in their day.

[ocgw]

Hey

Another thread started me thinking about the RPM's of a HDD.

I have a couple of HDD's laying around i was going to use in an older PC but no where on the drives or labels does it state the RPM's of the drives.

Is there a program that can read the drive/s and tell me if they are 7200rpm, 5400rpm, ect.

They are a couple of Quantum Fireball's, do they even make those anymore ??

I would test them and use the one that tests best w/ HD Tach since highest rpm's doesn't always translate into higher transfer rates

ocgw

peace

[Noahtuck]

And even if the new version of Everest will tell you the RPM's of an HDD, i have yet to find it....

From the tree menu:

storage => windows storage => look under disk device physical info

Hmmm... still aint seeing nothing about the listed RPM of a drive.

I would test them and use the one that tests best w/ HD Tach since highest rpm's doesn't always translate into higher transfer rates

ocgw

peace

Yep, i'm going to try some now, i actually found a couple of programs that do the same thing the other day so i'll run them on a couple f drives and see what they come up with.

[vhelp]

Hey, what about my Seagate ST-225 how fast is that just kidding..hehe..

It was my very first 20mb HDD, and it made a loud head-switching (banging) nose, but it was awesome back then and for what it was/ment then. Anyway. If memery recalls, it only had as high as 1:2 (1 to 2) interleave ratio speed, a 1:1 would have been optimum and best back then but I think in those days it was scares and only on expansive drive..this thing prob weighted some 3lbs I think.

-vhelp 5198

[Nelson37]

You could change that interleave to 1:1. That was the original reason the Spinrite program existed.

[Noahtuck]

Yeah i remember the old 50mb. 100mb, 500mb sized HDD's

The smallest one i have lying around anymore is an old TriGem 2.1gb

i remember back using it for a C: drive just to put Win95 on then using a massively killer huge 80gb for the secondary drive

Are you expecting RPM to mean video sustained bit rate? No it doesn't. Explain further your expectations.

Sustained bit rate also depends on platter density and interface.

Something that loaded faster then the 20gb hdd was 8)
My son's friend wants his old 1.8ghz with a gb of ram just to load a game on for online playing but the HDD his friend had was shot so i was going to throw in one of the 2 20gb's i have laying around just for the OS then throw in a 30 or 80 gb HDD for the secondary drive for him to load his game one.
It's an older role playing game.

When i threw in a spare 120gb HDD that i know is a 7200RPM and significantly newer, the boot times was cut in half running the exact same setup.

The funny thing is after running a couple of programs to test the transfer speed/rate,

Quantum Fireball Lct15 20
7200 RPM

QUANTUM FIREBALL Lct20 20 <- this one ran significantly faster of the two
4500 rpm

I may have to throw in that 2.1gb just to see what it will do

EDIT:
Here is a scan of that bad mofo!!

[rallynavvie]

Are you expecting RPM to mean video sustained bit rate? No it doesn't. Explain further your expectations.

Sustained bit rate also depends on platter density and interface.

I would say the latter two are primary aspects of sustained transfer speeds. RPM helps keep up those speeds across the platters but not by much. High-RPM drives are all about access/seek times. Keep in mind that 10- and 15krpm drives are also generally made with much more strict tolerances than most consumer desktop drives so often that's where you see the other benches increase. For instance a 7200rpm WD RE3 gets about 94 MB/s average to the 10krpm WD VelociRaptor's 98 MB/s. And I'm guessing the reason for the higher average on the 10k drive is due to a tighter min/max threshold due to the faster rotational speed (less delta on its benches than the 7200rpm drive).

Much of this can be translated back to slower drives as well. I've seen storage arrays that use 5400rpm SATA drives since doing linear writes (backups) don't require access/seek speeds but the company wanted the power savings of the slower spindle drives. Laptops often use them for this reason, though I did get a 7200rpm drive for my new laptop since it runs VMs and has some access-intensive tasks because of it.

What I'd like to see on those old drives is to slap a SATA converter on it and run it off a SATA bus. Obviously won't make any difference in performance (unless you count less performance) but it would be kinda funny