I tried burning my first Blu-ray today to utter failure. I followed the guide by milOtis, I ripped to ISO with anydvd, used dvd rebuilder to make a bd-25 and then burned it. I got an invalid disc message. So I went back and patched the index file witht the correct option selected and burned again. Same message. The first one plays fine on my computer, haven't tested the patched one yet. What gives? This doesn't seem to be the data disc error either because I read at least one person could browse the contents of the disc on the ps3 but all I can do is launch it and wait 10 seconds for the error message to appear.
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Are you doing full disc or movie only?
Maybe the problem is complex menus incorrectly remapped in BDRB and/or PIP tracks. What movie are you trying to backup? Also, what software player are you using on your computer? (I use TME, which is exceptionally tolerant.)
Tried a different movie, main movie only?
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Originally Posted by DGenerateKane
After I install PDVD I then update it to the version I saved and then delete a file that nags me to update lol
If you allowed PDVD to update try reinstalling it, if your version is new you may be stuck unfortunately
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I don't have a problem with powerdvd, I have a problem playing the disc on my PS3. I tried making a BD-5 and this time it played, up until the actual movie that is. It started playing the preview for blu-rays and then the short about copying movies is bad and then it said invalid disc. This sucks.
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I asked about your software player out of curiosity. I've had a couple instances where TME played a backup correctly and the standalone did not.
One of my first BD backups was a Band of Brothers disc, full disc mode. Mind you, I was doing BD5, but anyway. TME played the backup fine, the standalone did not. Tried a newer version of BDRB. (Seems there's a new version every week). This one played okay, but activating the interactive timeline in the menu froze the player. Again TME played it. Next try, new version, this one worked, but chapter timings were off for the second episode. Okay, good enough. Maybe sometime I'll get around to trying another version of BDRB on it. [shrugs]
So Pearl Harbor is a Disney/Buena Vista release. The release date (Dec 2006) indicates it's not a BD+ disc. Could it be something's not quite right with the decryption? As to PIP, that was an HD-DVD standard, not Blu-Ray. Most of the PIP problems involve Universal discs ported straight from HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. So the problem probably isn't that.
From what I can gather, Pearl Harbor has a lot of extras on the disc. All I can think of is you really should try movie only just to rule in or out the menus being the problem.
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Originally Posted by DGenerateKane
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I have no way to test this, but if I remember correctly I have read here that full disc backups of Blu Ray to DVD media don't work at all on the PS3. Movie only is said to work. Do some research to confirm this.
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Originally Posted by jman98Pull! Bang! Darn!
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Originally Posted by fritzi93
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I'm a little puzzled that the BD-5 full disc actually loaded and played the preview before it crapped out, whereas the BD-25 didn't even load. Is that correct?
How about a main movie backup to BD-5? That would be an inexpensive test.Pull! Bang! Darn! -
Yeah I was a bit annoyed when it crapped out after the previews, it got my hopes up and then smashed them. I guess I'll try movie only to BD-25 first, then I'll try movie only on BD-5. And yes I did change the setting on AVCHD patcher.
Edit: I just patched the index file and the message was not as expected, instead of "patch ok" it said "the file was patched" and it didn't patch the movieobject file. Gonna burn it anyway.
Edit 2: It worked. I'm going to try full disc one more time in case the problem was a bug in BDRE, I updated it before doing this latest one. -
Good deal. Seems that BDRB had trouble with the menus on that disc.
No doubt a version of BDRB will in the not-too-distant future be able to do it, jdobbs has created a very good program. It is beta, after all, though he has made steady progress in improving it. Here's hoping your go with the latest version is successful.Pull! Bang! Darn! -
Still didn't work. Going to get another Blu-ray today or tomorrow and try full disc again.
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My guess is the disc may have authoring errors or maybe it's just very complex. [shrugs]
As an aside, has anyone out there successfully done a disc with "seamless branching" (i.e. alternate versions of main movie) with BDRB? Like for example the disc from the newest Blade Runner box set with *three* versions on one disc?Pull! Bang! Darn! -
Originally Posted by mrswlaPull! Bang! Darn!
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Well I just tried to backup Knowing with similar results. Thought it might be the option I chose for encoding which was High Speed Option (BD-25) so the second time I left it on default. This time the PS3 recognized the volume label in the browser (every other time it was just labeled BDMV) and after launching it displayed a loading bar then went the same old error message. This is frustrating.
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Wow, no wonder you're frustrated.
I once again slogged through this thread at Doom9:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674
Note that it's mainly about BDRB compatibility on BD5/9, as supposedly just about any player "should" play a full disc BDRB backup on BD-R. But maybe you can find a hint or two there.
A quick search shows that "Knowing" is a June 2009 release. It has BD-Live, which means BD-J menus (java), and it appears to be complex with a good deal of extras. Also three previews in front during which the top menu command is disabled, forcing one to skip them individually. (Why do the bastards do that? Grr.) In the thread linked above, it's hinted that complex BD-J menus can be problematic, and several Sony players are listed, although not the PS3.
Since you were successful with a movie-only backup, BDRB is evidently working on your computer. So there's still the possibility that the problem is in the menus. If so, you seem to be really unlucky, picking two problematic discs in a row. But the other possibles I can think of seem even less likely (AnyDVD settings, BD-R media, installs of Avisynth/Haali/ffdshow).
Anyone out there backed up "Knowing"?
Sorry I can't do any better than that.Pull! Bang! Darn! -
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What settings do you have enabled in AnyDVD? I have Enable Blu-ray Support (obviously) Prohibit User Operations, Disable BD-Live, PowerDVD "virtual drive detected" workaround and Remove Blu-ray Region Code. I'm going to rip it again without the last two options this time to see if that makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by mrswla
By all means, try it as mrswla suggests and post back.
[EDIT] BTW, I rip to image and use Daemon Tools, always works for me.Pull! Bang! Darn! -
Well I'm going to skip Daemon Tools by ripping to files instead of ISO. That might be the problem, I'm running windows 7 with the latest free version of Daemon Tools and the latest fully windows 7 compatible SPTD driver. I'm also leaving all the options besides Enable Blu-ray support unchecked in AnyDVD.
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I also am using win 7. The only checked box in anydvd is "Enable Blu-ray support", all others are unchecked including "Remove Blu-Ray Region Code". Here is a screenshot of settings in anydvd and bdrb:
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Did you burn your BD-R with UDF 2.50 or 2.60? It is very important for PS3. for ex. in NERO you can set up UDF (not automatic, but manual)to 2.50 or 2.60. Try to do it with BD-RE first.
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Hey guys, this seems to be the right place to post my problem. My last 2 back-up using Milotis pdf guide did not work either. However, unlike some of you, I don't get any error messages in the PS3. I just get a black screen. Any thoughts?
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That is the settings I used this time, and it worked finally! Must be one of those options I had enabled causing me all this grief. I also wasted nearly a dozen BD-R's because my verbatim BD-RE was never detected in the ps3 for some reason. :/ Thanks for all the help!
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I don't suppose you could do just one more *with* all options enabled?
That would enable us to be certain what exactly caused the problem: i.e. AnyDVD settings or DaemonTools. Two factors were changed for this try, so it's not entirely clear.
Anyway, thanks to mrswla for the solution. 8)Pull! Bang! Darn! -
Originally Posted by fritzi93
I'll report back with my findings.
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