Looking for simple software to cut mpeg1 into many pieces in one step

[jimdagys]

I have a 20 minute mpeg1 video and I am looking for a simple software in which I can play (watch) the mpeg1 file and click every minute or so, (about 20 clicks) and then hit save and I will have the video cut into the 20 pieces (separate video files that are cut on my clicks). Or if I could enter the 20 or so times (in minuteeconds) and have the software make all the cuts according to the times, that would be OK also.

[PuzZLeR]

Stuff like this exists similarly for inserting chapters with MPEG-2 and DvD authoring, but nothing as automated for cutting, particularly with any editor or one effective for MPEG-1/2 as far as I know.

Having said that, the best solution that I know of would be with VideoReDo.

Tools -> Options -> Navigation

Set one of the single, double or triple arrows (your choice) to 1 minute.

Then you can click through the video one minute at a time (per click) and place your respective cuts.

It's still in essence a manual solution, but as automatic as you're going to get, or hopefully good enough for you until (if/when) someone posts a better solution.

[glenpinn]

yeah i personally use tmpgenc mpeg editor for cutting/joining any of my mpeg2 files.

not free, but i use 3 of the pegasys video editing/encoding and authoring tools for all my work and buy them as a package.

video-redo is another such tool, but i personally dont like it for mpegs.

i also use 2 tools called Boilsoft video splitter and video joiner, which will do many different formats, not just mpeg files, and these are the ones i use for all my Avi splitting/joining (Xvids especially)

http://www.boilsoft.com/

[PuzZLeR]

yeah i personally use tmpgenc mpeg editor for cutting/joining any of my mpeg2 files.

TMPGEnc MPEG Editor is probably one of the least talked among apps that are awesome. It's for simple MPEG stuff, but very, very productive. Worth every penny in my opinion. VideoReDo, although good too, is not my favorite either for .mpg

i also use 2 tools called Boilsoft video splitter and video joiner, which will do many different formats, not just mpeg files, and these are the ones i use for all my Avi splitting/joining (Xvids especially)

VirtualDub now supports smart render for formats like Xvid that have key frames far apart. Also, VirtualDubMod is one I recommend highly for the basic edits for AVI formats (I particularly use it for DV when I need alot of cuts and joins). It's got a good batch tool as well.

[G)-(OST]

Hi
I use videoRedo exclusively with meg2 files, I love it, I have found it does a great job in cutting & joining, I have never found any problems with it at all, but a little expensive for what it does.
Boilsoft's video joiner is not that crash hot if you ask me, it's good to use on stuff you don't really care about, I found many errors & when I played an AVI that was joined with BVJer, VLC wanted to repair the files that were joined, the joiner was making rough as guts joins, though that was a while ago, things may have changed since

Denis

[glenpinn]

Hi
I use videoRedo exclusively with meg2 files, I love it, I have found it does a great job in cutting & joining, I have never found any problems with it at all, but a little expensive for what it does.
Boilsoft's video joiner is not that crash hot if you ask me, it's good to use on stuff you don't really care about, I found many errors & when I played an AVI that was joined with BVJer, VLC wanted to repair the files that were joined, the joiner was making rough as guts joins, though that was a while ago, things may have changed since

Denis

hi denis, your right in part of what your saying, however boilsoft used to only join files that had identical sampling rates, and in most cases, wanted to re-encode the audio of one or all the other files it was joining , to be identical to the first part, and although i always used this option, the joins were always 100% perfectly executed.

the new version will now join 2 or more parts together even if the sampling rates are different, and still joins them perfectly.

i have never had any issues with the join quality, so i have no idea why you had problems.

NOW the splitting tool, thats a different story, and it can be a real dog depending on the quality of your source file.

i have had movies (again refer to Xvid) where i select the start point of a cut and when its done, there are still many frames left on the start of the resulting file that i had selected to chop off.
the end frame cut has in every case, been frame accurate for me, never been an issue.

so looks like virtualdub or virtualdubmod (dunno which one) will be the best solution for avi cutting, but i hate the GUI.

i thought video re-do was going to bring in an avi cutting tool, or incorporate avi into its software, cos it could certainly do with it, as well as tpgenc (pegasys) they should also do the same, considering tmpgenc xpress supports import and output of nearly all file types.

[glenpinn]

TMPGEnc MPEG Editor is probably one of the least talked among apps that are awesome. It's for simple MPEG stuff, but very, very productive. Worth every penny in my opinion.

yeah i have never seen anyone talk about tmpgenc mpeg editor or their new dvd authoring tools either for that matter, as here in australia, they are often talked about much more often than in places such as usa (on the forums)

the mpeg editor is brilliant in the way it works, i cant fault it at all, then again i love all the tmpgenc software, i use them all the time.

[G)-(OST]

Hey

Like I said, it was a while ago when I tried BVJer, & I just was unpleased.

About you joining your avi's, virtualdub can do that to, you can use the "append avi segment" option, with the compression set to "direct stream copy" it works really good, but I don't usualy like joining xvid files for the reason of sync, it seems that ocasionaly, xvid files go out of sync when they are longer than 1gb, so I just seperate them into 700mb parts (if you burn the files to a dvd, they will anyway play one after the other on a xvid capable DVD so long as you name them in alphabetical order), something that was a habit when there was no such thing as DVD burners around or they just plain costed to much to buy, hence the pirated scene movie releases are in 700mb segements even today, I think.

Denis

[PuzZLeR]

@Glenpinn:

Nobody seems to know about MPEG's best kept secret, which is TMPGEnc MPEG Editor - fast, easy, lossless cuts/joins, batching, transitions (in advanced app), and batch muxing/demuxing, no GOP issues, no audio issues, etc. It's amazing.

Even after I do edits with a tool like Womble, I still will run it through one pass with TME to make sure all GOPs are fixed, etc.

The "Tonka toy" looking interface may be what fools people into believing it's not a serious tool, which is wrong. We both know that TME is a solid, reliable and very productive tool.

EDIT: Pointing out that "TME" in this post means TMPGEnc MPEG Editor.

[glenpinn]

Hey

Like I said, it was a while ago when I tried BVJer, & I just was unpleased.

About you joining your avi's, virtualdub can do that to, you can use the "append avi segment" option, with the compression set to "direct stream copy" it works really good, but I don't usualy like joining xvid files for the reason of sync, it seems that ocasionaly, xvid files go out of sync when they are longer than 1gb, so I just seperate them into 700mb parts (if you burn the files to a dvd, they will anyway play one after the other on a xvid capable DVD so long as you name them in alphabetical order), something that was a habit when there was no such thing as DVD burners around or they just plain costed to much to buy, hence the pirated scene movie releases are in 700mb segements even today, I think.

Denis

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[G)-(OST]

Hey

It depends on the movie, some movies seem to need more bitrate than others to get a decent picture, when I was backing up my copies of Napoleaon Dynamite & Anger management, I had to encode AM with more bitrate because it showed up pixels at a bit rate of 800kbps. 700mb is good for a maximum of 1 & a half hours of xvid movie, usualy, with an average of 750-800kbps, any less you end up with pixelation alot of the times, but some times you can get away with less, depending on the movie.

Denis

[glenpinn]

Hey

It depends on the movie, some movies seem to need more bitrate than others to get a decent picture, when I was backing up my copies of Napoleaon Dynamite & Anger management, I had to encode AM with more bitrate because it showed up pixels at a bit rate of 800kbps. 700mb is good for a maximum of 1 & a half hours of xvid movie, usualy, with an average of 750-800kbps, any less you end up with pixelation alot of the times, but some times you can get away with less, depending on the movie.

Denis

ok what your referring to is more likely to do with the quality of the source file, you can get 2 identical length dvd movies yet both may well be slightly different quality because of the original bitrate used.

if you then take both and output them to Xvid format using the same software using the same bitrate, the original movie that had the poorer quality will also be the poorer Xvid quality.

i currently have a thread in the advanced encoding thread in this forum dealing with Xvid encoding of my 170 mpeg2 home videos, and i found i need to treat live footage filmed using dv or analog camcorders totally different to the way its done ripping or converting movies, but it was great because now im outputting my mpeg2 files, encoded at 6000 bitrate @ 45mb per min file size, to Xvid using the same 720x405 resolution using a 2.0 target quantizer output quality and my files are now 28 to 30mb per min in size, and the average bitrate is between 3100 and 3200 on most of them, saving me approx 40% of hdd space yet retaining almost identical mpeg2 quality as my source files are.

there are a lot of variables in Xvid encoding, and everyone will approach it in different ways.

been a good thread guys.