Ripbot lock-size @ 8150 too big for DVD+R

[Z.Sath]

I've used Ripbot a couple of times to convert some of my BDs to fit on a DVD9 using locksize 8150.

The only problem is that the resulting files seem to weigh in at around 8348-8351, whhich doesn't seem to fit on a Dual Layer disk (certainly not using Nero).

Any ideas guys?

[Baldrick]

Maybe try BD Rebuilder if you are doing bd to bd/avchd.

[jman98]

I'd very strongly suggest that you NOT use Nero for any DL burning. ImgBurn is the ONLY reliable burner for DVD media. Nero has had issues in the past with DL burns.

[Z.Sath]

Hi Baldrick - TBH I'm perfectly happy with AVC/mp4 - simply play the files back via my htpc.

Just wondered if I was doing something wrong i.e. I select 8150 to fit on a DVD9 and it ain't 8150, and it don't fit

Would a different disk or recording software sort it?

[Z.Sath]

I'd very strongly suggest that you NOT use Nero for any DL burning. ImgBurn is the ONLY reliable burner for DVD media. Nero has had issues in the past with DL burns.

Same with ImgBurn - I guess the 8150 files Ripbot has created are simply too big for a DVD9 - simple as

[jman98]

Sorry, but I don't think I was clear enough. The point of using ImgBurn was NOT to magically fix your size issue (you'll have to do that yourself, probably by choosing a smaller target size), but to get you away from using Nero. Nero is a VERY BAD idea for burning any DVD media with.

Note that if you are using any DL discs except Verbatim DVD+R DL discs, you wasted your money, as you'll soon find out. Verbatim is the ONLY maker of reliable DL media.

[Z.Sath]

Sorry, but I don't think I was clear enough. The point of using ImgBurn was NOT to magically fix your size issue (you'll have to do that yourself, probably by choosing a smaller target size), but to get you away from using Nero. Nero is a VERY BAD idea for burning any DVD media with.

Note that if you are using any DL discs except Verbatim DVD+R DL discs, you wasted your money, as you'll soon find out. Verbatim is the ONLY maker of reliable DL media.

Cheers JMan - thanks for the heads up, will be confining myself to ImgBurn from now on

Also big thanks for the heads-up on Verbatim.

PS do you think I'll lose much quality if I re-convert my 8150 (actual 8350) rips to 8000?

[redwudz]

A DVD-9 (DL) disc holds about 8540 MB, so you should have plenty of room. In real sizes, that's about 7.95GB, figuring 1024 MB per GB. That's explained in 'WHAT IS' DVD to the upper left on this page. I have burned probably ten RIPBOT BD>MKV files with the program set on 8150 and I haven't ran out of space yet.

Maybe it's a Media or Nero problem? I only use Verbatim DL + discs and ImgBurn. Check the actual file size before burning one of them. Mine average about 8320 maximum, still small enough to fit a DL disc with no problems.

[Z.Sath]

Same prob with ImgBurn, thing is that even on Nero, the file guage does not go into the red, just between the two markers (which I assume are -R and +R). On burning however both writers just spit them out.

Amadeus is the biggest at 8351 - 7.96Gb
Both new Batman movies come in at around 8349.5

Would these not fit on a +R (these are larger than -R right)?
If not, why does Ripbot miss the mark?

Disks are Traxdata though, which may not be helping...

[jman98]

I doubt you'll notice any difference if you re-encode to 8000.

You are probably facing the infamous "What is a gigabyte?" problem. A gigabyte is technically supposed to be 1024 bytes, but some manufacturers measure it as 1000 bytes. This causes all kinds of problems. So depending on whether you are talking about 1000 byte gigabytes or 1024 gigabytes, a DVD+R DL disc is either 8.5 GB or 7.92 GB in size. I'm guessing that you're actually dealing with the latter, hence the reason why your encodes are "too big" even though you think they should fit on the disc. Or to put it another way, I'm guessing that Ripbot is using 1024 byte gigabytes in what it reports, which limits you to 7.92 GB on a DVD+R DL disc.

Yes, +R discs are marginally larger than -R discs.

[redwudz]

Try a Verbatim DL + disc and see it that helps with the problem. Or set RipBot at 8000 and see if that helps. But I suspect the media.

[Z.Sath]

Cheers Redwudz - will be purchasing some Verbatim very shortly (well in two weeks as I go on my Hols tomorrow ).

Just to confirm though - Batman : The Dark Knight currently weighs in at 8,349,495 kb according to windows explorer.

Is there any way this is going on a Dual Layer DVD+R?

[Atak_Snajpera]

8,349,495 kb / 1024 = ~ 8154 MB

[jman98]

Cheers Redwudz - will be purchasing some Verbatim very shortly (well in two weeks as I go on my Hols tomorrow ).

Just to confirm though - Batman : The Dark Knight currently weighs in at 8,349,495 kb according to windows explorer.

Is there any way this is going on a Dual Layer DVD+R?

No. Thanks to Atak_Snajpera for doing the math for you. Buying Verbatim will NOT solve this issue, although it will at least give you the only worthwhile DL discs on the market to use.

Read my previous post again until you understand that different programs report "Gigabytes" (and Megabytes) in different units and this is leading to your confusion.

[ni9ht_5ta1k3r]

the best option is to reduce your target filesize to something a bit lower. If I was making an encode to fit onto a DVD-5 I would set the target size to 4090mb instead 4096mb and if the final file is a 1mb over 4090mb it will still be ok.