I hope this is the right place to post this question. My first post, and I apologize if it's in the wrong place. I searched the forums and was unable to find that this question had already been posted.
I am about to buy my first Blu Ray burner. I have about 2000 dvd movies that I would like to backup to Blu-Ray. I would like for these blu-rays to play in a blu-ray player (with menu options for which dvd on the blu-ray I want to play).
Obviously my intention is to turn my 2000 dvd movies into about 200 Blu-Ray movies, which I can then store in a single dvd case that I can carry wherever I go.
I was hoping there might be a tutorial on how to do the following steps:
1. Burn multiple DVD-Rs onto a blank single/dual layer Blu-Ray.
2. Create menus for said Blu-Ray to pick the media you want to play on your Blu-Ray Player.
Thank you!
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Try multiAVCHD. But you will lose menus, subs, extra material, etc.
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You're in for a lot of encoding so hopefully you have a fast computer, but I think I can answer your question
To address your first concern, you're going to need to convert your DVDs to Blu-Ray compliant specs. For example, H264 video @ 720x480 resolution and AC3 or DTS audio both stored in an .mkv container (I'll get to why .mkv in just a moment). Next, you can use a program called MultiAVCHD to take those multiple .mkv's and create a Blu-Ray compliant folder, which once burned to a BD-R, will contain a menu for selecting each of the converted .mkv movies created in the above step and can be played on presumably any Blu-Ray player.
Now that I think about it though, Blu-Ray does support MPEG2, which is the default codec of all DVDs so alternatively for each DVD, you could combine all the VOB's into one big MPEG file and load that into MultiAVCHD. However, since MPEG2 compression isn't as good as H264, you'll be wasting a lot of space so the choice is up to you.
Anyway, here is a link to a guide that will help you with converting your DVDs to Blu-Ray compliant files: https://forum.videohelp.com/topic365611.html
Make sure to keep your AC3 or DTS audio when following this guide and don't crop the video either.
Alternatively here is a guide for Ripbot264 if you don't like the program in the other guide: http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/RipBot264_PS3_Xbox_360_Guide_page1.html
While this guide is for PS3 and Xbox360 in particular, the process for your purposes will be the same except you just have to keep the source AC3 or DTS audio and make sure not to crop the video like I mentioned above.
Here is a link to a MultiAVCHD guide: http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php
And the videohelp page for MultiAVCHD: https://www.videohelp.com/tools/multiAVCHD
One last note, I would suggest doing a smaller project first, in particular, one that will fit on a DVD-R or DVD-RW so you can test that out on your Blu-Ray player to see if everything works like you want it to. This way you won't waste any expensive BD-Rs in the process.
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Ive burned mpeg dvd files with multiavchd onto dvd and it plays no problem so it should work on bd-r disc as well.Best to keep as dvd mpeg without encoding cause the time involved isnt worth the disc space you will save.
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seems like a lot of work for not much gain. there are no dual layer bd-r. you are limited to 25 GB sl. with the typical dvd stripped of menus and extras is going to come in at around 6-7 GB, you may get 4 dvds on a bd-r, more likey 3.
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Originally Posted by minidv2dvd
http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=R&Product_Code=BNR50...egory_Code=BRM
Disclaimer: I do not have a BluRay burner, so I can make no comment on what those discs are like in terms of quality, reliability, etc. -
Thank you all for your thoughtful replies.
So, as I understand it, if I want to use a Blu-Ray disc to burn multiple DVDs, I will lose my menus and the DVDs will play more like a set of flowing video files in the order of my choosing. I suppose that it is only a matter of time before a software is invented that will allow you to retain your menus and such.
In the meantime...
Follow up question if I may...
If I wish to use the Blu-Ray discs as a storage facility where the DVDs are not playable on a Blu-Ray player but the VOB files and DVD folders are intact without conversion, can I do this, then play the Blu-Ray disc from my computer (and Blu-Ray burner)?
I use my computer as my media center (TV and such) and think that if this is possible, I may save a lot of time with conversions. Then, I can just copy all my DVDs to Blu-Ray discs, turn 2000 discs into 400 (using the 25 gig discs since the 50g are so expensive), and play them from my computer at my whim.
Is this possible?
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I suppose that it is only a matter of time before a software is invented that will allow you to retain your menus and such.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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Backing up a moment, keep in mind, DvD is not standard within the BD spec in theory. The only reason BD players play DvDs in the first place is only as an added (and "can't-be-without") feature.
Having said that, the MPEG-2 streams that are in your DvDs though are fully compliant within the BD standard (even if they're in SD). However the menus are not (unless I'm mistaken here which I doubt).
I'm afraid you cannot just copy, or re-encode, your DvDs a certain way so they can play as blu-ray discs with all their menus intact. At least not without some hack, of which I don't know of.
Here are your options:
-Rip out the MPEG-2 streams from your DvDs and mux/author with the tools mentioned. You can still make a compliant BD disc out of them this way. And no re-encoding. But no original menus.
-Encode them to compliant H.264 streams to pack more into your discs and you can still author them with the tools mentioned but they need to be encoded with a compliant BD profile. However, this will be time consuming - VERY time consuming. And you will lose quality. And x264, the free H.264 encoder, is not ready for interlaced content and has buggy pull-down, which includes most DvD SD sources, so it will not be efficient for blu-ray currently. You can encode anyway to progressive, and MKV, hack and mux, etc, but you're rolling the dice on compliancy.
-Encode them to DivX/Xvid. Nice compression and plenty of support among BD. H.264 in MKV is also coming too, especially since DivX 7 is getting underway. None are BD compliant, but should be common soon.
Or, regarding your follow-up question:If I wish to use the Blu-Ray discs as a storage facility where the DVDs are not playable on a Blu-Ray player but the VOB files and DVD folders are intact without conversion, can I do this, then play the Blu-Ray disc from my computer (and Blu-Ray burner)?
I use my computer as my media center (TV and such) and think that if this is possible, I may save a lot of time with conversions. Then, I can just copy all my DVDs to Blu-Ray discs, turn 2000 discs into 200, and play them from my computer at my whim.
Is this possible?
But the key in keeping the DvDs, menus and all, intact is by converting them to respective ISO files (which are like ZIP for discs). Then you can play them from any storage unit using a PC.
BD does not support ISO though. However, I don't see why it won't be an added feature in the near future when burners become more commonplace for people that wish to migrate their DvD content untouched to BD discs and BD players.I hate VHS. I always did. -
Originally Posted by PuzZLeR
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Originally Posted by DereX888
Nevertheless, it is indeed Sony's objective to kill off the DvD for BD. Yet all BD units play DvDs even though it is not "standard" and will continue to do so for a while yet, even long after if/when the DvD format should die.
BD players playing DvD are only catering to a "feature". Nothing more. And there's always room for more "features" when it justifies demand, and that will include ISO files especially when BD burners become more affordable.I hate VHS. I always did. -
PuzZLeR - as you said.
GreedyFuck Corporation's (aka S*ny) main business today is entertainment (and insurance, maybe the latter is somewhat less due to the "official crisis" now, but I'm sure this corporation can easily shift focus to other financial market's aspects).
DVD support, ISO support etc - it is exact opposite what this GreedyFucks Corporation would want to promote together with their Blu shite ever.
I don't doubt that adding ISO can be added as easily and as transparently to consumers as trivial DVD support, but I also don't doubt that - unlike with DVD - it will never materialize with ISO. There simply is not enough consumer pressure to include it.
GreedyFuck Co. knows that 99% of Blu's existing and potential users have no clue what ISO is (unlike DVD). -
You could try latest multiavchd now,
[13/05/2009] build 579 - Support for DVD folder import. Full DVD to AVCHD and Blu-ray support. -
Originally Posted by Baldrick
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And now
[14/05/2009] build 580 - Added support for subtitles in DVD folder import mode (not for IFO import). Java required. Full download required
[14/05/2009] build 582 - Version 2.7. Full DVD support (playlists, multiple subtitle tracks, multiple audio tracks). -
Originally Posted by PuzZLeR
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Ok...I used multiavchd to put three DVD's onto a 25GB Blu Ray disc. I took my Back to the Future Trilogy and ripped it to my hard drive as three movies. I then ran it through multiavchd and created a Blu Ray disc. This disc plays perfect on my PS3 and also on PowerDVD7.3. For some reason, it will not play on my friends Magnavox Blu Ray player. It reads it but comes up with a playback error. Could it be that his player is not compatible with BD-R discs or am I doing something wrong when I author it? I am pretty much sure that I selected "Blu Ray for BD-R/RE disc". Not AVCHD for optical media.
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Originally Posted by bmo
i know a lot of people ask why bother but i can get bd-r disc's fairly cheap and just want to place a lot of my tv series dvds onto single or double disc's for playing and store the orig dvds away.
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Originally Posted by rbarbier
You didn't mention other options, but you could use a hardware player like a WD Media Player and a small hard drive and put all your DVDs on that and carry them around. It would probably take up less space than 200 BDs and make things a lot simpler. No re-encoding, etc. Just plug it into a TV with HDMI or other connections and you are done. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Descr...tion=wd+player
EDIT: I forgot you have 2000 DVDs. At ~8GB each, that would be 16TB of storage. But that would also be 600+ BDs. 200 25GB BDs could hold 5TB. To fit 2000 movies on 200 BD 25GB discs, they would have to be about 2.5GB each. Hopefully my math is correct. But it seems you have a big problem if you want menus, etc, and keep something close to the original quality. You may be able to do it with MKV, but it will take a lot of encoding.
Just to add, 200 BD's will cost you at least $800US, if not more. For that something like the WD player may still be the better option. Then you avoid the problems with BD players entirely and just hook directly to the display device.
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