DVDSubEdit... Everything Is Wrong!!!

[Typhoon859]

With this program, almost every single line has at least one mistake. That means I have to go through and fix every line throughout all the footage. I don't think there's anything that can be done to get that working better, so, does anybody know of a program as simple and effective as this but does a better job? I tried SubRip before this program and it was just too confusing...

[manono]

Is it the automatic OCR you're talking about? Yeah, it sucks. You should be OCRing manually with SubRip. You think SubRip is confusing? Tedious maybe, but it's pretty simple in principle. Open the VOBs or the IFO, tick "Subpictures to Text via OCR", choose the output format (SRT, SSA, what?) by hitting the blue jigsaw puzzle piece-looking box, and then hit Start. It goes slowly at first, but picks up considerably after you get all the letters and numbers typed in once.

Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/subrip.htm

[Typhoon859]

Is it the automatic OCR you're talking about? Yeah, it sucks. You should be OCRing manually with SubRip. You think SubRip is confusing? Tedious maybe, but it's pretty simple in principle. Open the VOBs or the IFO, tick "Subpictures to Text via OCR", choose the output format (SRT, SSA, what?) by hitting the blue jigsaw puzzle piece-looking box, and then hit Start. It goes slowly at first, but picks up considerable after you get all the letters and numbers typed in once.

Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/subrip.htm

Hmm.. Well, it was long ago, so maybe because of the tediousness I thought I was doing something wrong. Yeah, I'm going to try again. From what you said, it looks like SubRip learns what the letters are based on your corrections as you go along unlike in DVDSubEdit. Is that right?

[manono]

Is that right?

Ideally you type each one in once - once per capital letter, once per small letter, once per number, plus the punctuation and other odds and ends. And if there are italics, then there's another set of typing.

[Typhoon859]

Is that right?

Ideally you type each one in once - once per capital letter, once per small letter, once per number, plus the punctuation and other odds and ends. And if there are italics, then there's another set of typing.

Oh. I see, cool. Umm, if I have a different source with the same subtitles style, would I be able to save that typing or whatever for other files? Or.. would it have to be done for each file individually?

[manono]

Umm, if I have a different source with the same subtitles style, would I be able to save that typing or whatever for other files?

Yeah, save the character matrix and the next time you have the same style of subs, you'll do little or no typing.

There are character matrix files with many, many different kinds of subs already worked out floating around. Track one down and with any luck you may not have to do much typing at all.

[Typhoon859]

Umm, if I have a different source with the same subtitles style, would I be able to save that typing or whatever for other files?

Yeah, save the character matrix and the next time you have the same style of subs, you'll do little or no typing.

There are character matrix files with many, many different kinds of subs already worked out floating around. Track one down and with any luck you may not have to do much typing at all.

Lol. Where would be the ideal place to search for that?

[manono]

Hehe, I was just searching myself:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mndwnjymyyt/ai4spam.rar

Unrar it and stick it in the ChMatrix folder in SubRip. Then when the first letter shows up to be typed, hit the "existing matrix that match for this" button. Hope for the best.

[Typhoon859]

Hehe, I was just searching myself:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mndwnjymyyt/ai4spam.rar

Unrar it and stick it in the ChMatrix folder in SubRip. Then when the first letter shows up to be typed, hit the "existing matrix that match for this" button. Hope for the best.

Oh, I see. This is like an all-in-one thing where they did the character matrix for many sources, one of those sources likely to be similar to the one I might have. Lol, alright, thank you very much.

[Typhoon859]

Is it the automatic OCR you're talking about? Yeah, it sucks. You should be OCRing manually with SubRip. You think SubRip is confusing? Tedious maybe, but it's pretty simple in principle. Open the VOBs or the IFO, tick "Subpictures to Text via OCR", choose the output format (SRT, SSA, what?) by hitting the blue jigsaw puzzle piece-looking box, and then hit Start. It goes slowly at first, but picks up considerably after you get all the letters and numbers typed in once.

Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/subrip.htm

I'm following the guide just in case now (cause nothing was happening, but there's nothing different from what I did. It's not finding any subtitles like DVDSubEdit did. I don't have the IFOs so I'm just using the VOBs. If DVDSubEdit was able to identify them, so then so should SubRip right?... It's going through the whole thing without a single pause and no subtitles, nothing...

EDIT: I just tried it with the IFO and it still doesn't work.

[manono]

What's it say for Language stream at the top of the "What to do?" screen, just after opening the VOBs or IFO? Nothing? Do you see anything when checking the drop-down box?

Try extracting the IDX/SUB VobSubs using VobSub Configure and then OCR them.

[Typhoon859]

Try extracting the IDX/SUB VobSubs using VobSub Configure and then OCR them. I don't know why you aren't getting subs.

This is why I wasn't getting around to subtitles this whole time. Because it's not worth all that just for subs.. Maybe it's my version of SubRip. As I said, it works with DVDSubEdit so I shouldn't have to be doing anything extra just for SubRip.

[manono]

I was just editing. Check the drop-down box to see if there are any sub streams besides the first empty (?) one.

[Typhoon859]

I was just editing. Check the drop-down box to see if there are any sub streams besides the first empty (?) one.

There's nothing anywhere.

[manono]

You're right - very strange. If DVDSubEdit can see them, then so should SubRip. I've never had that particular problem so I don't know the solution, other than to suggest what I did before - try and extract the VobSubs.

There's another way to OCR, and that's by using SubResynch (comes included with the VobSub package). But it requires the VobSubs as input.

[Typhoon859]

You're right - very strange. If DVDSubEdit can see them, then so should SubRip. I've never had that particular problem so I don't know the solution, other than to suggest what I did before - try and extract the VobSubs.

There's another way to OCR, and that's by using SubResynch (comes included with the VobSub package). But it requires the VobSubs as input.

Well, I don't know anything about VobSub (though I want to), so I won't go there. Not now anyways... I'm going to try to download a different version of SubRip.

EDIT: Yes, it was my version of SubRip... Ugh, I hate crap like that. Anyway, thanks.

[Typhoon859]

You're right - very strange. If DVDSubEdit can see them, then so should SubRip. I've never had that particular problem so I don't know the solution, other than to suggest what I did before - try and extract the VobSubs.

There's another way to OCR, and that's by using SubResynch (comes included with the VobSub package). But it requires the VobSubs as input.

Well, I don't know anything about VobSub (though I want to), so I won't go there. Not now anyways... I'm going to try to download a different version of SubRip.

EDIT: Yes, it was my version of SubRip... Ugh, I hate crap like that. Anyway, thanks.

Wth?... I opened the program again and wanted to rip the subs again from the same file, just to see if it would work without interruptions after I had loaded the Character Matrix that I saved. And it wasn't working again. It went through the whole thing without any result just like before. I didn't do anything different. I don't understand.. Makes absolutely no sense.

[manono]

I don't know what the problem is. Perhaps someone else can help. Sorry.

[Typhoon859]

I don't know what the problem is. Perhaps someone else can help. Sorry.

Lol, that's ok. It's not a very rational problem. I don't think it can be figured out. The only factor that I see that could be affecting the program in such a way is the operating system somehow. Dunno... There's nothing else that changes...