laser printers

[alintatoc]

I just bought yesterday a Samsung Clp 310 laser printer. I have some issues, it almost alerts me every time that the paper is not inserted right, but actually I checked couple of times and the paper seems ok. Although the printer alerts me, it still prints after couple of seconds.

[lordsmurf]

I saw this deal yesterday, Mother's Day week special, Minolta 1600W color laser for only $140 with free shipping. Not a bad deal at all. Konica-Minolta printers are respected for their color quality, and the prints always look stellar. If I even remotely needed a third printer, I'd probably buy this one myself.

At this exact moment, it says "Very few left In Stock! Order soon -- product may sell out."

I'm not surprised, these are great machines.

[Bjs]

1500 pages per toner cart ... yikes!

Samsung Ml 2010 does 3500 per toner cart and is why I purchased it ... good value for small business if needing only black print

My R230 Epson sits for 3 or more months ... upon reuse, 2 print head cleans and its perfect again

[T-Fish]

1500 / 3500 means nothing.
it depends on the size of the toner and the prize.

also know that they're talking about 5% toner usage per page. thats text, not
graphics.

[orsetto]

My R230 Epson sits for 3 or more months ... upon reuse, 2 print head cleans and its perfect again

Which is why many of us *LOATHE* Epsons: the "gotta head clean after five minutes of not using it" nonsense. You are lucky indeed if yours comes back to life after a few weeks with only 2 head clean cycles: most require four or five head clean passes, which uses up a third or more of the remaining ink tank capacity and even then makes faulty prints. For that matter, a single head clean blows a significant amount of ink (don't be fooled by what looks like a tiny head clean page printout: the majority of headcleaning ink just spurts onto a waste sponge you never see).

If it weren't for this unnecessary "waste as much ink as possible" design, many inkjets would actually be reasonably competitive with color lasers for low-speed applications. Some color lasers burn thru toner at nearly the rate an inkjet uses ink, when you average out the cost per page they aren't as far off as you'd think. In such cases, an inkjet is cheaper to purchase and so is the lower-capacity ink cartridge for "only buy what you need" purposes. But that was in the past: current inkjets are hopeless ink pigs that make even the most inefficient color lasers seem frugal. And better-designed color lasers like the Brothers have ultra-high-capacity toner carts that last forever, slashing the cost per page to nearly nothing.

(BTW the $149 Koni-Minolta color laser deal mentioned by LordSmurf is a steal: fantastic printers at that price, I've never seen them drop that low. A $149 Koni-Minolta is a far FAR better buy than a $149 color Samsung.)

[Brainiac]

Based on this post, I replaced my HP 2600N with a Brother HL-4040CDN: one of the best things that I ever did.
Graphics are better, colors are better and it has automatic duplexing.

Brainiac

[stiltman]

Be aware, Brother Laser printers require drum replacements for about every 3 -4 toners replacements.

[AlanHK]

Local artists refer to inkjet prints as 'Glicee.' I guess that inkjet sounds too cheap.

If you're going to be a poseur, at least use the right spelling.

What's In a Name: The True Story of "Giclée"
giclée (zhee-clay) n. 1. a type of digital fine-art print. 2. Most often associated with reproductions; a giclée is a multiple print or exact copy of an original work of art that was created by conventional means (painting, drawing, etc.) and then reproduced digitally, typically via inkjet printing. First use in this context by Jack Duganne in 1991, Los Angeles, California.

[johns0]

The person who posted of 4+ years good service from a Samsung is the exception that proves the rule: Samsung color lasers are hands down the most notoriously bad choice you can make. When they work, which is rarely, the color is OK for the price and the toner cost is reasonable.

Now I feel like crap for recommending them.... But, I've only bought two - one of each model - and they're a couple of workhorses (relatively...). Lucky is better than good!!

I have had the samsung clp 310 for the last 6 months and prints with no problems at all and doesnt use much power.

[alintatoc]

The person who posted of 4+ years good service from a Samsung is the exception that proves the rule: Samsung color lasers are hands down the most notoriously bad choice you can make. When they work, which is rarely, the color is OK for the price and the toner cost is reasonable.

Now I feel like crap for recommending them.... But, I've only bought two - one of each model - and they're a couple of workhorses (relatively...). Lucky is better than good!!

I have had the samsung clp 310 for the last 6 months and prints with no problems at all and doesnt use much power.

Nice, that makes two of us then
How many pages did you print with the toner that came inside the box?

Found this on Samsung web page:
Average Continuous Black Cartridge Yield : 1,500* standard pages (ships with 1,000 pages Starter Toner Cartridge) * Declared yield value in accordance with ISO/IEC 19798
What does that yield value tell me? Where can I see that document?

[T-Fish]

5% toner use per page i.e. text only.

[johns0]

5% toner use per page i.e. text only.

That makes it 20 pages per toner,have printed over 200 pages and still printing.

[TJohns]

5% toner use per page i.e. text only.

That makes it 20 pages per toner,have printed over 200 pages and still printing.

No, they mean that you'll get the quoted page count if 5% of every page is covered with toner...see what happens when you print a lot of full-page images!

Trev