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    I need help to convert an Avi Video file that is 713 MB ,Bitrate 128kbps and Dimensio 720 X 480 , that will fit onto just a CD....... Is that possible with SVCD or VCD format?
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    Are you actually wanting to create a VCD or SVCD, or are you simply wanting to store the file on a data CD?

    If you want to fit the file on a data CD, just open the AVI in VirtualDub, and re-encode it (lower the bitrate ever so slightly, since it's already around 700MB). Or use AutoGK with the target set to CD/700MB.

    Or, you can try compressing the AVI into a .zip/.rar archive, to see if that shaves off an extra fifteen or more megabytes. (Of course, that won't exactly help if you want to make the video viewable from the CD...)
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    Originally Posted by Ai Haibara
    Are you actually wanting to create a VCD or SVCD, or are you simply wanting to store the file on a data CD?

    If you want to fit the file on a data CD, just open the AVI in VirtualDub, and re-encode it (lower the bitrate ever so slightly, since it's already around 700MB). Or use AutoGK with the target set to CD/700MB.

    Or, you can try compressing the AVI into a .zip/.rar archive, to see if that shaves off an extra fifteen or more megabytes. (Of course, that won't exactly help if you want to make the video viewable from the CD...)
    What I really want is to FIT all that onto a CD, without "sacrificing" any drop in the quality , since it is so.close to the size of a 700 MB CD, I actually tried using WinAVI and did a conversion from avi > VCD, But the oend result is 2 Files, which is 600 MB and 100 MB?/
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    Originally Posted by niteghost
    Originally Posted by Ai Haibara
    Are you actually wanting to create a VCD or SVCD, or are you simply wanting to store the file on a data CD?

    If you want to fit the file on a data CD, just open the AVI in VirtualDub, and re-encode it (lower the bitrate ever so slightly, since it's already around 700MB). Or use AutoGK with the target set to CD/700MB.

    Or, you can try compressing the AVI into a .zip/.rar archive, to see if that shaves off an extra fifteen or more megabytes. (Of course, that won't exactly help if you want to make the video viewable from the CD...)
    What I really want is to FIT all that onto a CD, without "sacrificing" any drop in the quality , since it is so.close to the size of a 700 MB CD, I actually tried using WinAVI and did a conversion from avi > VCD, But the oend result is 2 Files, which is 600 MB and 100 MB?/
    Impossible to do so "without "sacrificing" any drop in the quality", specially if it is action-packed movie.
    But you may get visually excellent results if the movie is more static (not much of motion on the screen), no "shaky camera" effects etc). Such SVCD/CVD could really look virtually as good as DVD.

    If you try SVCD (or CVD) remember these few simple hints:
    1 - the smaller bitrate you go for (meaning the more video crammed into the lesser size file) the more videopasses is needed. (but more than 4-5 passes is useless because there won't be any difference).
    2 - try to cut the crap out if your bitrate is too low ("sacrifice" end credits, begining logos etc - anything that's useless and has nothing to do with the movie itself, anyways you don't read end credits, do you? ). In some cases you may save a lot of wasted bytes on those (I remember 98min long movie with total of 9 mins of freaking end credits... but thats extreme)
    3 - don't butcher sound too much; use VBR and you'll enjoy pretty good sound at very little size (yes, every standalone capable of SVCD/CVD playback will play VBR MP2 sound too).

    But generally speaking, if you want to put standard length movie on CD in SVCD or CVD format, you should use 2 CDs to achieve best quality these formats can give. (Notice I say CVD and not VCD - I didn't make a typo there and in case you don't know the difference I suggest you educate yourself now, because there is huge difference between CVD and VCD; also - just forget VCD, go for SVCD or CVD if you have to use CDs).
    I have fit once entire 90+min long film on a single disc SVCD in a really excellent quality virtually indistinguishable from its source DVD, including 2 different selectable audio tracks and 4 selectable language subtitles, but no menus (I used to make simple menus too )
    But as I said earlier - it was possible because this particular movie itself was very very static Iranian drama, not some hollywood crapster full of flashing explosions and car chases...
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    Originally Posted by niteghost
    Hope I am in the right section for this question.
    I need help to convert an Avi Video file that is 713 MB ,Bitrate 128kbps and Dimensio 720 X 480 , that will fit onto just a CD....... Is that possible with SVCD or VCD format?
    Why not just burn it as data on to a DVD-R blank and pop a few other items on as well. You won't have to recode or lose any quality that way. DVD blanks are so cheap now even if you just put the one item on it, it would be the simplest and quickest solution. If your DVD player plays AVI files it doesn't matter if the disc is a CD size or a DVD size as data. I often put 6 eps of a TV series I want to archive.
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    Originally Posted by niteghost
    Hope I am in the right section for this question.
    I need help to convert an Avi Video file that is 713 MB ,Bitrate 128kbps and Dimensio 720 X 480 , that will fit onto just a CD....... Is that possible with SVCD or VCD format?
    Did you try to burn that to a CD as data....with something like ImgBurn?
    Bits and Bytes and Megabytes are very confusing...but not to programs like ImgBurn.
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    VCD and SVCD are not your answers because the quality drop will be too much. VCD won't work if it's more than 80 minutes.

    You could try to burn the AVI to CD as a data disc and use overburn if your burning software supports it. It might (or might not) fit. You could also buy 90 minute CD-Rs and burn to that. 90 minute CD-Rs violate CD standards, but everything I've ever tried to can play them. If you try this method, burn as slow as your burner allows. I'd recommend not going above 4x speed if possible.
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    Originally Posted by niteghost
    What I really want is to FIT all that onto a CD, without "sacrificing" any drop in the quality , since it is so.close to the size of a 700 MB CD, I actually tried using WinAVI and did a conversion from avi > VCD, But the oend result is 2 Files, which is 600 MB and 100 MB?/[/b]
    Did you just try burning your original file as data?
    Depending on what you define as a "MB", it may fit.

    Originally Posted by wikipedia
    A standard 120 mm, "700 MB" CD-ROM can hold about 847 MB of data, or 737 MB (703 MiB) with error correction.
    The "737 MB" refers to "decimal" megabytes, "703 MiB" to "binary".
    The 837 is possible, but not standard.

    Or overburn a little.

    Or just buy an 800 MB blank CDR. That's a common capacity blank CDs here, anyway, cost virtually the same as 700s.
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