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    I'd like to create an audio patch for a DVD. Theres a program called Icarus that will patch subtitles but if you try audio the size ends up being about the same size as the DVD ISO.

    Is it possible?

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    Welcome to the forums, but to be blunt (Baldrick was too nice to be blunt to you), your post makes no sense at all. Try again with a better explanation of what you did and what you want to know. What the heck does it mean to patch subtitles? Then there's a vague statement about trying the audio, whatever that means. Not to mention that I've never heard of this Icarus program and a quick web search turned up nothing related to it.

    Bottom line - either post again with more information or nobody will help you.
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  4. Originally Posted by jman98
    Not to mention that I've never heard of this Icarus program and a quick web search turned up nothing related to it.

    Bottom line - either post again with more information or nobody will help you.


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    From the developer: "Icarus connects you to the Internet Chess Club, where thousands of other chess players are waiting. With Icarus you can attend online chess lectures, play in tournaments, watch Grandmasters fight it out, and of course play lots of chess yourself."

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    What I'm talking about is creating a patch for a DVD that will patch in an additional audio track. With Icarus people download a created patch and it will patch in the subtitle.

    As for Icarus [s:21203fd9b8]this site[/s:21203fd9b8] created it to patch DVDs with subtitles.
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    If you're talking about a patch to repair an illegally downloaded movie file, you won't get any help here.
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    Am I breaking the rules?

    Patching a foreign subtitle track into a DVD I own is illegal?
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    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    Am I breaking the rules?
    Before you reply, please observe our following forum rules
    # Do NOT give, link, ask, or advocate WAREZ.
    # Warez includes downloaded copyrighted movies and TV-series/shows and copying rented movies.

    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    Patching a foreign subtitle track into a DVD I own is illegal?
    No, but that isn't what the site you linked to is concerned with. I don't know of any patches for a legally purchased DVD, only downloaded ones.
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    Originally Posted by ntscuser
    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    Am I breaking the rules?
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    # Warez includes downloaded copyrighted movies and TV-series/shows and copying rented movies.
    Sorry, I don't know much about that site since its foreign to me. All I knew was they created the application. I'll remove it.

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    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    Patching a foreign subtitle track into a DVD I own is illegal?
    No, but that isn't what the site you linked to is concerned with. I don't know of any patches for a legally purchased DVD, only downloaded ones.
    Well for example buying a Japanese R2 Godzilla DVD and using a patch to put English subtitles onto it.
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    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    Well for example buying a Japanese R2 Godzilla DVD and using a patch to put English subtitles onto it.
    I'm afraid there's no simple way of doing it. See here:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html
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    stiltman - If you're going to be pedantic about it, I guess I should have said the following:

    I could not find a VIDEO related program called Icarus when I did a (non-exhaustive) web search for it.

    Are you satisfied now? Geez. Thanks for nothing. Yes, that was oh so helpful to the original post to point out that a completely unrelated program using the same name existed. Thanks so much for taking the time to point that out - not.

    Are you bored? You had nothing better to do than be a useless ass here?

    Spawn1985 - Please STOP IMMEDIATELY using the term "patch" to refer to what you want to do. That is NOT the correct term. That is why your original post makes no sense. You want to ADD or REPLACE subtitles/language tracks in a DVD. We have many guides on doing that here. Here's one:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html
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    stiltman - If you're going to be pedantic about it, I guess I should have said the following:

    I could not find a VIDEO related program called Icarus when I did a (non-exhaustive) web search for it.

    Are you satisfied now? Geez. Thanks for nothing. Yes, that was oh so helpful to the original post to point out that a completely unrelated program using the same name existed. Thanks so much for taking the time to point that out - not.

    Are you bored? You had nothing better to do than be a useless ass here?
    Talking about an ass....Like your first freaking post was helpfull

    At least I was making a joke. You were just being a blunt ass

    Feel free to carry on with the the name calling, I can oblige
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    Originally Posted by jman98
    Spawn1985 - Please STOP IMMEDIATELY using the term "patch" to refer to what you want to do. That is NOT the correct term. That is why your original post makes no sense. You want to ADD or REPLACE subtitles/language tracks in a DVD. We have many guides on doing that here. Here's one:
    https://forum.videohelp.com/topic338721.html
    I know very well how to add subtitles & sync audio to DVDs. I want to create a patch for those that also have the DVD to simply patch in the audio track. You can do it with subtitles so I was wondering if you can do the same with audio. If you don't know what I'm talking about then that means you can't help so I see no reason for you to continue posting in this thread.
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    this thread needs to be patched LOL
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    Originally Posted by Spawn1985
    I know very well how to add subtitles & sync audio to DVDs. I want to create a patch for those that also have the DVD to simply patch in the audio track.
    The short answer is no. I've seen "fixes" that could do amazing things such as replace an entire foreign menu with an English one but none that could replace an audio track which didn't already exist on the DVD.
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    Icarus is some free fansubber software floating around on the net. Basically you load up the original unsubbed ISO, then the fansubbed ISO, and it will create a subtitle "patch" which somebody else (using Icarus again) can apply to their DVD. Yes it's hard to find it, but you can check it out here.

    I don't know of a similar tool for making an audio-stream patch. I think you would have to do it manually?
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    ZQX wrote:
    Icarus is some free fansubber software floating around on the net. Basically you load up the original unsubbed ISO, then the fansubbed ISO, and it will create a subtitle "patch" which somebody else (using Icarus again) can apply to their DVD. Yes it's hard to find it, but you can check it out here.

    I don't know of a similar tool for making an audio-stream patch. I think you would have to do it manually?


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    Yes I agree. I like to get my hands dirty with various freeware tools and know exactly what is happening in the process. Also I like to apply my own preferred subtitle formatting (size/font/etc), as well as fix up the inevitable spelling & grammatical mistakes lol.
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    The icarus "patching" program that is being discussed here is nothing more than a Delphi GUI front-end to the xdelta3 program from xdelta.org

    I'm sure with some tweaking of the -B and -W parameters, you could get a reasonable xdiff file. Unfortunately, increasing these parameters WILL eat up a lot of memory, take more time to complete, and will probably reduce the compressibility of the addresses in the VCDIFF copy commands.

    (ETA: yeah... holy necropost. Sorry for that, but I felt I should add this information to the thread, in case anyone happens across it via a google search, as I had)
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    do this in XML and save everyone the hassle
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  22. Originally Posted by Spawn1985 View Post
    I'd like to create an audio patch for a DVD. Theres a program called Icarus that will patch subtitles but if you try audio the size ends up being about the same size as the DVD ISO.
    Is it possible?
    Try aIcarus or aPatch. For a quick solution.
    Rules don't let me say more.

    Worst case, pass the VOB files to a single merged VOB. (SlySoft, VBrmX). Then use VOBMux to merge the current file with the new audio track. All assuming it's a correct audio track, that it's properly synced, etc.

    To answer the Q about size, the question is poorly worded,.
    If you mean you doubled the size:
    if you're adding a DTS track it's quite posible you're adding another 4 gigs of space to the image.
    If you mean the size didn't change (much):
    also possible if adding some poorly coded 2-channel AAC track or the like.

    Depends on what you're using for an audio source.
    Remember there's always PMs as well to ask more specific questions.
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    @lostinlodos - Just remember that it has to be dvd compliant to be properly muxed for authoring that is compatible in anything but a computer. It must be pcm 48khz or ac3 dolby digital, dts, or mp2 at 48khz (though mp2 isn't 100% dvd compliant as a main audio track, "officially" it has to have a compliant pcm or ac3 track as well though that should only be on a handful of picky non-main stream or really old dvd players). AAC is not valid as is for dvd - it must be converted to one of the aforementioned formats.

    Just to clairfy so nobody goes on wasting time on an aac without conversion.

    but thanks for the other information that is sure to be useful in this application.
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    Just to clairfy so nobody goes on wasting time on an aac without conversion.
    Good point to make for general purpose.
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